Hillary Clinton loses her mind (Full version)

[mudesi]

Run time: 03:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3fa-T0v0sk   Posted on YouTube: February 23, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: February 23, 2008 By DU Member: mudesi Views on DU: 3166

 
Here is the video of Hillary Clinton attacking Obama's mailers in its entirety.

[tekisui]

1. Who's the stooge behind her?

[TwilightGardener]

2. Her sycophant, Gov. Strickland.

[Extend a Hand]

3. Well that's one stooge I am *REALLY* happy

to have as governor here now.

[pauldg0]

42. My my who's the stooge? The stooge is you..............

.....You and many like you are supporting one of these two candidates who never say a damn thing in all the rhetoric, not a thing. I'm not voting for either one of those stooges too.

[Island Blue]

4. self delete

[arcos]

5. This is it?

I thought people were saying she lost her mind and that she was screaming?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

52. I was waiting to see chairs flying and shit. n/t

[gateley]

6. A question --

IS she correct in saying that Obama's quote of her NAFTA stance was corrected by the newspaper? If so, then I agree he shouldn't be using that point. If not, well...

[beachmom]

7. Yuck. Ugly, Vindictive. Hypocritical. Double yuck. nt

[aquart]

18. Yes. Any criticism of Obama is WRONG.

He is above criticism and everybody should know it.

[jbs4352]

24. I moved out of the house to keep my Mom from bitching

Going off to college I finally left behind my mum's
complaining. When I saw HC I said "Mom, is that
you?" Wasn't enough that she complained about mailings
that she said were incorrect. She also left her listeners
confused about what exactly was incrrect? Instead of ranting,
I'd appreciate a Power Point presentation that would explain
how Barama's take on HC's health insurance plan is incorrect.
She has some explaining to do. Does she think she's going to
win votes with her raves? Can you imagine what life was like
for Chelsea growing up with that haunting voice?

[suziedemocrat]

29. Your post makes you sound like you have a problem with women.

That's not healthy.

I agree though, she might have been more specific about what was false.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. okay cicada ......we got it dislike your mother ....you have women issue

[liberaltrucker]

46. Welcome to DU

Enjoy your *short* stay!

:hi:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

35. opps posting this up stream

[NNadir]

8. Personally I don't see even a shred of irrationality in this video.

I am frankly quite satisfied that we have two candidates who are campaigning actively, and of course, I have not seen the mailing (The primary is over here, and I didn't vote either for Mrs. Clinton or for Mr. Obama - having chosen to vote for a failed candidate).

But Mrs. Clinton speech here consists entirely of readily verifiable remarks.

She may have improved upon the speech by reading the specific remarks that incited her anger, but anger expressed in this way is an appropriate emotion. I hope that the next President will have the capability of being angry, since a little anger will certainly be called upon in the next administration.

[jgraz]

15. No, it's not irrational. It's calculated hypocrisy.

For example.

[NNadir]

21. Again, the contents of this flyer are readily verifiable.

I am going to vote for the candidate my party selects, and I trust the primary voters who follow to make a wise choice. But it seems to me that how one votes on issues effecting reproductive choice is relevant to the campaign.

If Mr. Obama were to do the same thing as Mrs. Clinton did, holding up this flyer and stating that it is untrue, I would have no problem with that either.

If he did vote "present," and he has a rational explanation for it, that is fine. On the other hand, if he is less than enthusiastic for women's right to choose, that is also fair game.

I personally do not expect either candidate to be perfect by the way.

I have big problems with Obama's approach to energy, for instance, and big problems with Mrs. Clinton's actions on the war in Iraq.

But to my great relief, neither of them are a McCain or Huckabee.

[izquierdista]

50. McCain voter are you then?

He has the capacity of being angry. Capacity filled to the brim and then some. Foul-mouthed drunken sailor getting into a bar fight angry.

No, this wasn't anger, this was like one of the above posters mentioned. This is why grown children move out and why spouses leave. Can you imagine having to listen to that for more than the 3 minutes or so the clip ran? I haven't had to listen to anything like that since the divorce was final and I'm SURE as hell not going to vote for 4 years of it.

[Yael]

9. Oh the drama

Let us know how that works out for ya, Mrs. Clinton!

[SoFlaJet]

10. Great title

I would have used "here it comes, here it comes here it comes her 19th nervous breakdown"

[catgirl]

11. Funny the attack machine is outraged when attacked.

I'll find her real comments on NAFTA and I'll post them. Her health care? She
did say that work wages could be garnished to "cover" health care.

She's full of it. She has attacked over and over on points that Obama has proven
to be false, then tries to turn the tables on him. Shame on you Hillary Clinton.

[CountAllVotes]

13. alas We The People have awaken!

It is a shame how long it took.

Shame on you Hillary Clinton, Shame on you too.

:kick:

[CountAllVotes]

12. I watched this again just now

I'd seen it when it first came on and it was a total :wtf: moment for me as I did not understand what she was talking about.

I think she should give it up or if she wants to stay in, she'd be best advised to shut the hell up and quit making herself look like a total out of control fool.

:kick:

[Nailzberg]

14. My ass she was "handed those in the crowd"

[jgraz]

16. Well, to be fair, Mark Penn could be mistaken for a crowd.

$1600 for donuts. :rofl:

[Nailzberg]

23. ROFLMAO

Quite true. :rofl:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

17. hillarious: "Clinton goes off" on the screen

agh! CNN is mocking her.

[catgirl]

19. Angry sour grapes

She found her (REAL) voice again!

[nebula]

20. Shrill and hysterical

Hillary sounds like she's about to rip someone's heart out.

[orleans]

32. shrill and hysterical?

this is "shrill and hysterical"?

maybe you should listen again, because obviously you don't know the meaning of the words "shrill" and "hysterical"

[nebula]

40. Shrill + Hillary = Shrillary

Simple math.

[orleans]

49. um, wrong. just because a female uses what i refer to as a lethal tone

or a deadly serious tone, people call that shrill. now...i wonder why that is? and it has nothing to do with your "simple" math.

[nebula]

53. People can express anger without coming off as shrill and hysterical

Take the lady in your sig for example.

And unlike Shrillary, Cindy has an actual reason to be angry.

[orleans]

54. yeah, well, you know what i mean. it's just a bit of a SEXIST thing

to be saying.

btw--when was the last time you described a male as "shrill and hysterical"?

um...my guess is you haven't done it yet.

[casus belli]

55. Nothing sexist about it...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1570753


That's but one example. It's not a pretty term, but there's nothing gender specific about the charge. Or, are you saying you associate shrill with women? That WOULD be sexist.

[orleans]

56. "nothing sexist about it"? oh really? when was the last time you thought

one of your buddies was "shrill and hysterical"
when was the last time you told him you thought that he sounded shrill and hysterical?
did you ever think your dad was shrill and hysterical when he yelled?
or when he didn't yell but just sounded deadly serious-angry? (gee, dad is really shrill and hysterical)



"There are certainly linguistic traps when discussing gender. Never refer to a woman as shrill or hysterical. Even if she is being shrill or hysterical. Those words were regularly used to demean and belittle women. You will be given no benefit of the doubt. You will be labeled a patronizing chauvinist pig.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/18/AR2008011800890_pf.html

"Critics also describe NOW as "shrill" and "hysterical," words that are curiously almost never used to describe men.
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/gendersexuality/p/now.htm

[casus belli]

57. Neither word really plays into my vocabulary...

but as I've pointed out, it isn't uncommon to see the words used to describe men, either. Howard Dean was a good example. I heard both of those terms used ad nauseum after his Iowa speech. I also hear the word shrill used alot to describe talk-radio. I think you're going to take away from this what you want. If you want to see the post as sexist, I'm not going to be able to persuade you otherwise. But I will say that accusing someone of being sexist, who isn't, only diminishes the word and the credibility of the person making the false accusation.

[orleans]

58. and how do you know they aren't? n/t

[casus belli]

59. If accusations are made, the proof of burden would be on the accuser.

Just because they chose the words shrill or hysterical, that's not evidence in and of itself that the intent was sexist.

[orleans]

60. well, it might not be "evidence in and of itself that the intent was sexist"

but it might be a big clue that the intent *was* sexist. either way, it certainly doesn't make a very good impression on others who may be unaware of what a great, open minded, fair thinking guy someone is while he's using outdated, stereotypical descriptions of females.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

43. if this isnt shrill and hysterical

i am not sure what is. give it up hillary, this isnt going to help you.

[orleans]

48. my god--you'd totally HATE me if you ever saw me mad.

i KNOW how to do shrill and hysterical--and trust me, this video is far from it.

[RazBerryBeret]

22. hey, wait a minute....

I heard her say she would resort to garnishing wages to pay for health care...doesn't that mean she's forcing everyone to buy it? I don't get it. and to be honest, the way she's run her campaign, I don't want her touching my paycheck!

and it sounds like someone is a little jealous of the big speeches, the big rallies.
hmmm..crowd envy, maybe?

but I live in Ohio and haven't gotten any of these mailing, I feel so cheated.

[applegrove]

25. Wow. Looks like Obama made a booboo.

[Sonnenschein]

26. You have been too soft on Obama all these time and now you

are all of sudden mad. Well too late. You should have attacked him from the start at every stump speech with a calm and reasoned voice like Obama does to you. Obviously Obama is a better student of Karl Rove.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

27. K&R, Thanks, I missed this earlier.

[kerstin]

28. I just made my first donation to the H. Clinton campaign as a result of this video.

Thank you for posting.

[ksquire]

31. lol really? you think that she "just got handed that in the crowd?

i should show you the mailers that we got from Hillary here in Wisconsin. Full of lies that put this to shame. As I understand it, everything in Obama's mailers are 100% accurate.

I do think he shouldn't have sent them though. Leave that kind of thing to Hillary and her ilk.

[kerstin]

39. Thanks for the input.

And while I'm here::kick:

[kerstin]

30. k & r. n/t

[Unca Jim]

33. Seriously, how was that the least bit unhinged?

I think she had a point about what the campaign does vs. the message the candidate presents. She (and every other candidate) has the same issues with inaccuracies in their flyers.

Why not stop the inaccurate attacks across the board?

Let me clearly state that as an Obama supporter I don't condone inaccurate attacks, and I don't see why objecting to them makes anyone "lose their mind".

[Cant trust em]

34. The whole "meet me in Ohio and lets debate your behavior" thing

is crazy. Is Obama the only one who has sent out less than true mailings here? No. Calling people out like this is only going to make everyone look bad. If she wants to correct the record, she can do so. But to call people out as bad Democrats is only going to backfire on her.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

44. yeah

It sounds like she wants to pick a fight with Obama after school. "Meet me at the flagpole at 3 o'clock!" And I did sense a bit of rally envy. It's over Hillary and you are doing a disservice to yourself by continuing to be schizophrenic. One day you are praising your opponent and saying that we will be fine, the next you are calling him out to "meet me in Ohio". Give it up Hillary.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

36. I think she was very presidential and Obama was using Republican attacks on a top Demcratic issue

but hey he seems to like and care more for the republican voters and their issues anyway

[liberaltrucker]

47. Huh??

Does not compute on many levels.

:shrug:

[xxqqqzme]

38. That bobblehead behind her

is going to lose his head if he keeps that up.

I don't want to hear about universal health care. I want to hear about SINGLE payer health care. THAT'S what Edwards finally understood and talked about.

[JTFrog]

41. Full on batshit crazy. n/t

[liberaltrucker]

45. Uh, Hillary, going negative is sooo Rovian

And 20th Century. Ain't gonna work in 08.

[Apollo11]

51. I think you mean "Hillary Clinton defends herself against Obama's negative attacks"

If Obama is the frontrunner then he should be extra careful about distributing materials that attack his challenger. It's a risky tactic that could backfire at any time.

Hillary is in second place right now and needs to break through on March 4th. If Obama is attacking her with these fliers she has no choice except to defend herself.

Defending yourself is not losing your mind. If you don't defend yourself then it just means that more people will believe the lies - as happened to John Kerry back in 2004.