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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:09 PM
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Rant on Bill Maher Guest Jack Kingston
 
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This shit has to be yelled from the mountaintop. STOP.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:19 PM
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1. K&R - Perfect
:toast:
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:35 PM
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2. I hope Hillary doesn't use this in my states primary
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:44 PM
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3. Thank you...
...if Bill Maher is going to have these "idiots" on his show he needs to be better informed so he can stop these "idiots" in there tracks. Why is he surprised that these are the allegations about Obama...and if they were the standard attacks against Hillary...he should be prepared. He's on the TEEEVEEE one whole hour a week - he should know what he's talking about.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:53 PM
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4. Who is going to hear this young man....?.....NOBODY, that's who.
Maher should have bitch slapped the idiot when he started to blow out his bullshit lies. This young fellow SHOULD HAVE CHARGED THE STAGE. Putting up a U-Tube video hits US. WE already know what is going on.

The viewers didn't get it. And the moron even had some other moron-botics applaud when he lied. Such bullshit we live amongst.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:00 AM
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5. Youtube has the power of millions...
PASS IT ON. More people can see this than saw Maher's show last night. The power is WITH the people. The internet is unbelieveable. And PLEASE read my entry:

http://www.4tvs.com/Journey/yearnine/entries/J731-022308.html

I would've charged the stage I swear to you. But I've worked at this studio when I was with CBS, I am very good friends with Bill's make-up lady and would never do that to her. But I'm telling you - CHARGE THE STAGE BY PASSING THIS ON. I don't know where else to post it - but people have to see this shit.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:01 AM
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6. I turned the show off when this Georgia Shitbag wouldn't Shut Up!
Nice Rant, thanks.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:05 AM
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7. K&R - Well said and you said it for many of us --
Welcome to DU, Adam! :hi:
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:11 AM
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8. Here, here!
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:49 AM
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9. I can assure you....
...that Kingston isn't the only idiot Congressman from Georgia. Hell, even our Democrats are stupid. Agree that Maher was way weak on this. The repeating of the lies about Obama and the hand over the heart - hell, nobody is supposed to put their hand over their heart during the Anthem - it's not in the protocol...the Pledge, yes, but not the Anthem. Just wish that Maher's people had pulled the Kingston interview on The Colbert Report from a couple of years ago - he was the first of the dumbass Congressmen that Colbert featured on his series of 'know your representatives (or something like that)', and there's a good reason for it. The bastard was too stupid to realize he was being ridiculed...he came away the fool and was seemingly proud of it. The only one that topped it was another Georgia Repug - Lynn Westmorland - who, even though he was sponsoring legislation to require the permanent placement of the Ten Commandments at/on government buildings/property, couldn't accurately recite even one of the ten. It wasn't too long after that one that the RNC got the word out that 'R's' shouldn't 'skin their ignorance' on TCR...or was it after he, Colbert, laid 'em low at the Press Corps Dinner. Those fools actually thought Colbert was one of them...the jerks.

Comeon Bill you can do better than that.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:19 AM
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10. Here's a link to it...
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:24 PM
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19. You do know that's a live show, right?
The split-second timing of live TV doesn't allow for much research. I think Bill handled it well...he was incredulous at and dismissive of Kingston's comments.

His job as host is to keep the show moving, not busy himself refuting every loony tunes idiocy spouted by the week's token wingers. They do that quite well on their own at making themselves look stupid.

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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:15 PM
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21. I was in the audience - of course I know it was live...
...there's no excuse to not call him on his crap. Period. His only excuse is he had no idea what Kingston was saying - so there was no WAY to call him on his crap. I'll find out more this week.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:14 PM
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25. Yes, obviously, you were there, Adam.
One, that was intended as a response to dirtydawg, and two, when I posted that, it hadn't connected in my head that the person posting the video and the person IN the video were the same.

Almost every week during Maher Season there will be at least one thread about how Bill didn't come down on some right winger hard enough, or he shouldn't have given so much time to so-and-so, or whatever should have been different in whatever. There is also the "I canceled my HBO the last time he had Ann Coulter on!!" crowd who expect Maher to be a Democratic/Progressive purist and are angy and disappointed when he is not.

I think a lot of people don't get that it is a live show and as such doesn't allow for much flexibility; if something didn't work out, there's no do-overs. And even among live shows, Maher is unique; on HBO they don't get commercial breaks to re-group.

It's a tough gig for a host; I cut Bill a lot of slack.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:17 PM
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27. ?
I only expect him to not let people outright LIE. I'm actually a libertarian and Maher is the man "most like me" when it comes to political/religious views on TV. But someone on that stage should've said something. Stop painting me into some left-wing agenda here. The man threw out a friggin' internet hoax as gospel and no one held him accountable. That has no party affiliation.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 03:18 AM
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11. Thank you Adam!
Thank you for your bravery. Thank you for this post. Stay Alive! Keep going brother. I am in this fight with you. We have to keep it up. We need to address the lies with the truth. Over, and Over, and Over again. The people who benefit from the tyranny have to use lies, so the Truth is one of our weapons against their oppression. Keep on Brother.
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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 03:18 AM
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12. Thank you.
n/t
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 04:27 AM
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13. where's that great picture of bush with his hands not over his heart?
saw it posted somewhere on DU, ought to get more publicity
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:11 PM
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16. I would love to see that...
...that would help me a bunch.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:33 PM
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17. Here it is (thanks to a couple of alert first responders in GD)
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:34 PM
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18. This picture needs to get a lot of publicity. nt
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:18 PM
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22. bwahahahaha...
that is CLASSIC....
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:43 PM
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29. yea, that is what he thinks his hand should go, just imagine
if he put his hand lower.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:33 AM
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14. K&R
:kick:

I was waiting for Maher to give this clown a piece of his mind, but he didn't. I was thoroughly dissatisfied in this clown being on the show.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 04:08 PM
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15. I'm still shocked to tell you the truth...
...I'm gonna try and get in contact with him through the mutual friend. I'm as shocked as all of you.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:34 PM
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20. Excellent rant Adam!!
:applause:

I've been in Maher's audience a couple of times. (I'm totally fascinated with watching chaos become a tv show in under a second.) I've always thought Bill does a pretty good job of holding these nutcases up to ridicule by just letting their natural stupidly flow.

Does anyone actually believe that a front-running presidential candidate would refuse to say the pledge? This kind of stuff is so far out it isn't even decent propaganda.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:16 PM
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23. Well..
...the implication is that this camera "caught him" in a momentary lapse of judgement where he forgot to play "patriotic american" and put is hand up.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:49 PM
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24. The email went around my work a few weeks ago
It had that picture, and a little dissertation about how Obama's parents were atheists and Barack was schooled at a madrases (something else which makes less-than-zero sense) so he's a stealthy Muslim who's been working all his life to surreptitiously take over the United States for Islam. Allah akbar!!

The mere fact that someone holding political office would throw that out as if it were true, makes them look dumber than half a bucket of rocks. It reminds of the people who said Kerry deliberately got himself wounded in Vietnam because he knew it would help his political career 30 years later.

Something I wish Bill had brought up--especially with Tom Browkaw--is the media's total focus on the race, the campaign, fund-raising and strategy. There is almost zero analysis of where the candidates stand on the issues; it's all about who's going to win.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 02:30 PM
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30. But guess what, it killed Kerry...
"It reminds of the people who said Kerry deliberately got himself wounded in Vietnam because he knew it would help his political career 30 years later."

Swift-boating nailed him. So it may not be so dumb. That's why I was so angry in my rant - fear can trump hope if you really bemoan the point.
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Akimbo2112 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:28 PM
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26. A little over the top
IMO.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:40 PM
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28. right on.
during the National Anthem I never saw anyone put their hand over their heart. Stop with the BS is right.
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