I am feeling pretty uncomfortable with poll numbers in OH and TX. I hope they will be as

[Mass]

wrong as they have been in other states, because I feel that the media is ready to change their narrative to "Hillary's comeback", unfortunately.

I know that it would be extremely difficult for her to get enough delegates to win, but I think it would be good to stop this primary and it is clear she will not if she can find any type of rational to stay in.

[ginnyinWI]

1. well they haven't been very accurate so far.

I wouldn't put a lot of stock in them. There is always a late-decider bunch who go for the new guy, as happened here in Wisconsin.

[MarjorieG]

2. I, too, notice a shift in media.

Maybe from the Kerry days, and knowing for sure the long free ads for Bush, versus an unattractive smidgen of Kerry. Don't know whether it's media's long term interest in taking out the anti-lobbyist guy, or just wanting to continue the fight to convention.

I think we're feeling nervous, just because, but also reflecting what the media is doing and not doing. People quote Joe Klein. I just starting watching again last month after 2004. Big mistake. Do people not pay attention to editorials anymore, saying he's qualified?

The experience issue is catching people, I think, especially with foreign relations. Maybe from the ad. Wonder if we should have addressed more proactively head on in a more public way. I know there have been conference calls, but media can choose not to publicize.

I have to hope there is a 4% plus ground game and new voter advantage we can't see.

I don't even want to think about funny voting numbers again, something Governor Strickland and local polls can affect. Brunner can try, but old habits of fraud die hard.

NH had a great Hillary ground game, and there legit reasons to explain a win. However, the total lack of procedures (which exist everywhere), the exact flipped numbers, anomalies in Nashua and Manchester, and no chain of custody to compare the counted ballots-with anything, leave me without assurance. We need to win big.

[sandnsea]

3. I think he'll win Texas

but yeah, her whining worked, which once again goes to show that the Clintons DO have media power, no matter how often they pretend they're perpetual victims. I'm so sick of them. Sick to death. I hope the Obama campaign has a strategy to push her out because I think it's going to take some kind of herculean moving heaven and earth strategy to make her concede.

[karynnj]

4. The poll numbers are all over the place

In addition, the projections have been terrible this year - and the deviations, other than NH, have been mostly in Obama's favor. I suspect that part of the reason they are less accurate this year is the number of first time voters, some of whom are not young. In likely voter estimates they are assigned a lower probability of voting - but this year they are voting. Another reason is that they may be missing people without landlines. Though the voter records can contain a cell phone number, I don't think the samples used by pollsters do. (I know NJ has cell numbers in because I was calling my own town and I knew all the land line exchanges) I know my two oldest have only cell phones and I hear they are not atypical in that.

What scares me more is that I think NH is better explained by the pro-choice flyer and Clinton's rant on Iraq than HRC almost in tears because she was losing - that just seems wrong. (We didn't even see the HRC people here touched by that - especially when the tears ended in an attack on Obama.) The Iraq thing was sneaky - the campaign hit the "fairy tale" and the vote - but I heard little disputing the worst most dishonest claim - that Obama said there was no difference between him and Bush on what to do in Iraq. This is not true - the agreement was wanting to leave it in good shape - the disagreement was completely how to do it. Both of those happened in the last day.

It scares me that in TX she's apparently going an ad with his negligence not having hearings on Afghanistan as he should have in the Europe committee. (It is amazing that that Kerry thinks it's reasonable to conduct them in the Near East committee. :sarcasm:) They are pushing this confusing NAFTA story in Ohio. (From GD-P threads. CNN was all on Clinton's side on Sunday. (Howard Dean and John Kerry being the only bright spots.) This may mean they are striving for the blowouts they need in OH and TX - though it's hard to imagine they will get them.

[JI7]

5. if they can't win the nomination they want Obama to lose in November

i was kind of reluctant to really believe this before. but after her comments about how MCCAIN would be more qualifed than Obama. it's one thing to speak of herself, but to bring up McCain?????

[Mass]

6. That and the comment about being muslims. It is incredible.

It is more and more clear that they do not care about the party at all. They prefer that the nominee loses if it is not her (I should not be surprised, considering 04).

[sandnsea]

8. Until I saw your post

I thought it was just some kind of DU hyperbole. So I went to look at it, holy criminy. I cannot believe she said that. I've chosen rat bastard to remain politically correct. :grr:

[AtomicKitten]

7. MSNBC has Obama 2 pts ahead in Ohio and 4 pts ahead in Texas.

And I have champagne on ice.

[thoughtcrime1984]

9. I hope you have occasion to pop the cork!

I am worried after all of the negative BS press coverage, and the multitudes of Hillary attack/negative ads. I think some of the noodle-headed undecideds may break to Shill based on this. I hope I am very wrong.

[AtomicKitten]

11. No worries.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4869911&mesg_id=4872798

[book_worm]

12. today they have Hillary up by 3 in TX and the two tied in OH

[wisteria]

10. I agree with you. I was for a good fight between the two candidates, but

it is time to bring this to and end now. The longer this Democrat primary goes on the weaker we become. Meanwhile, McCain is out there raising money and sharpening his attacks for the general election.

I hope it is a clear loss for Senator Clinton.

[Inuca]

13. It's going to be a long day today

the NAFTA thing could not have come at a worse moment.. We shall see... In any case :grouphug:

Also: I find some of the things HRC has done and said absolutely DESPICABLE. I do not know how much it ia the "if I cannot have it, then nobody can" attitude, how much it is giving up on 08 and thinking ahead to 2012, the party, the country, and the whole world be damned, and how much (this would be the most charitable interpretation) is simply the myopic, short-term approach to doing things that seems to characterize both Clintons MO. In any case, each time when I hear the "me and McCain have experience, Obama has a speech" I feel like throwing the heaviest object I can can get my hand on at the TV; unfortunately I cannot afford a new one right now.