wisteria
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Wed Apr-23-08 10:15 PM
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Maybe it is time to start talking up Obama like the GE candidate he is. |
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And, at the same time start trying to bring Clinton supporters over to the Obama side. The poor things have been mislead by the Clinton's and the media into thinking that she actually has a chance to win this. When the only way she could possibly come out ahead is if he were out of the race permanently. And, that isn't going to happen.
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Dr Ron
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Thu Apr-24-08 08:40 AM
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Clinton can win. All she needs to do is get around 80% of the vote in the remaining primaries (higher if she loses any where Obama is now leading). Alternatively if she gets around 80% of the remaining uncommitted superdelegates she can win. These are the odds which are keeping her in the race.
It is not only a matter of Obama getting out of the race. Clinton is looking at creating situations where she forces him out by bringing up slime attacks. If the only concern was Obama leaving the race due to something negative coming up not raised by her she could simply suspend her campaign and keep her current delegates. Then she would be well positioned to win if something forced Obama out. She won't do this because she not only wants Obama forced out, she is willing to resort to the Tonya Harding strategy to try to force him out. What she doesn't realize is that in the unlikely event she does force him out this will also make her unelectable. There's even the chance that if she goes low enough to force Obama out (which she is extremely unlikely to succeed at) the result very well might be the party turning to Gore.
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Thu Apr-24-08 09:11 AM
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2. I wish we had more help from the media |
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They are making such a big deal out of the PA win. She wins by 9 or 10% and it's "ooh! ahh! Hillary's making a comeback! She can't win according to the numbers, but how exciting that she's still in there fighting!" Obama wins by 25%, and it's "ho-hum, another win for Obama." Same thing with their money raising stats.
Is this just because they want the race to continue? Would they be pumping up Obama's wins if he were the underdog? Don't know. Do they think she's more corporate friendly, and is the reporting influenced by the higher-ups or not? Whether it's individual journalists or the whole system, something smells.
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Thu Apr-24-08 05:11 PM
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3. Yes, it smells big time. The Clinton's must have made major promises to the corporate media. |
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Obama wants the Fairness doctrine,many media outlets are fearful of this. Could be Clinton doesn't support it.
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Thu Apr-24-08 06:15 PM
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4. It's extra frustrating because we KNOW they are lying about this intentionally. |
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Thu Apr-24-08 09:06 PM
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5. Yes, the media made it seem Clinton had a real shot at this. I think Pa would have been different if |
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people know what a long shot she really is. Lightening would have to strike Obama for her to get the nomination. Yet, they purposely mislead the people who weren't following all of this too closely. So many Pa voters waisted their votes and unintentionally have allowed the media to spin this against Obama.
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