Under The Bus!

[Undercurrent]

Well, the bashing of prominent Democrats who have said the Health Care Bill should be passed continues.

I know others have been lambasted for their support of the legislation too, but I have seen the following people tossed "under the bus" in the last day or two.

Bill Clinton
Sherrod Brown
Viki Kennedy
John Kerry
Paul Krugman
Tom Harkin
Barbara Boxer
Nancy Pelosi
even
Bernie Sanders

and of course our own Democratic President... and his wife... and dog.

This whole thing is so much like the purity test mentality sweeping the Repug party it's creepy!

The Democratic party is THE big tent party, and the price for our diversity has always been tolerance and compromise. Now suddenly that is a terrible thing. So we even have DUers throwing the whole Democratic party under the bus. :crazy:

Which of course leads me to an inevitable conclusion. Some of the loudest posters on DU are not now, and maybe never were Democrats.

[Arkana]

1. The Kucinich SS must not be contradicted.

[treestar]

2. I think you are right

They throw everyone under the bus the minute they try to support the bill.

How could they be Democrats?

Pelosi and Reid got so much shit for caving and betraying, blah, blah, under a Republican President. Now the President gets to join them!

[Arkana]

3. They are convinced that this will be the end of any meaningful attempt

at health care reform if it passes, so their solution is to kill it.

Some of them are dumber than the teabaggers.

[MerryBlooms]

4. I don't know the criteria for locking/tombstoning

but honestly, I've been shocked over the last week how much horrendous language, bullying, blatant anti Dem, and anti Obama posts are allowed to stay up. Accusing Dem supporters of drinking koolaid - I can see that on any hate site on the net, I didn't expect to see it here. I joined because I wanted a place where Dems could discuss policy, conditions, etc ... without the right wing hatred. I'm not sure if I want to continue my membership once it runs out. ANY post that supports the current administration is immediately swarmed with verbal assaults. I'm very disappointed in DU as of late.

[Undercurrent]

8. You are not alone, Merry.

It's gotten to be one big, nasty pile on. :(

[MerryBlooms]

10. I hesitate to get involved in any of the 'deep' stuff

because I have to take so many breaks (health issues) so I'm not able to engage for long periods, which so many topics deserve. I rec my heart out when I see the supportive posts. Those of you who are jumping in there and fighting the good fight, I salute you. You've done a magnificent job staying focused on the facts and the long term good. I wonder if some of these people who are so anti Dem and anti Obama even have one thought regarding the big picture? Part of that big picture will be supreme court nominations ...

[treestar]

9. I've been alerting here and there

If the post is just purely a personal attack.

[MerryBlooms]

11. When you 'alert'

what message from the admin pops up? Do you get a chance to confirm or is it automatic? Do the alerts count towards a ban?

[treestar]

13. I don't know

I've never gotten any response from an alert. I should check back to see if the post gets deleted on some of them.

[MerryBlooms]

14. This thread is heartbreaking

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7275186

I can't believe what I'm seeing.

[Undercurrent]

15. Thanks for point this one out.

Now they are bashing the President's little girls! Disgusting! :puke:



PS: Alert is your friend.

[ginnyinWI]

19. that is really sad.

I like to think that this person would earn a punch in the nose from the girls' dad. Makes me feel better. :)

[treestar]

22. It got locked

Even the Bush girls were respected on DU.

And they were adults.

[Silver Gaia]

34. I hear you, too, Merry.

DU used to be a 'safe haven' for me, a place I could come to get away from the madness out there, where there were more people 'like me.' It's not that way any more. I used to come check out the 'Greatest' and 'Latest' pages several times a day to find out what was going on, knowing I'd find good info here. But the nastiness is just appalling. It's difficult to try to wade through all the ugly posts to find anything worth reading. It's depressing as hell! I agree with those who think a lot of these posters aren't even Democrats, and may well be agitators.

My husband has gotten so disgusted by the whole thing, he just stopped reading. He'd rather play video games than read about politics right now, and it was the current state of things on DU that did this to him. We're talking about a man who's lived and breathed politics as long as I've known him. Sad. He doesn't even want to know anything about anything political right now.

I'm glad to have found this little corner. A sanctuary, a 'safe haven' once again. I've been getting really saddened and even freaked out by what I see in the main forums these days. Here, I can breathe a little sigh of relief and relax just a little. I'm trying to get my hubby to start reading in here, too. He'll probably come back around.

Actually, I think it will all come back around eventually, at least I hope so. Right now, it's a cesspool, though.

[get the red out]

35. I agree with you

If it weren't for a few, very few, groups on DU I would not come to this site anymore. What these people are doing has nothing to do with being a Democrat, they are as sickening as the teabaggers at this point, just blind rage.

[HopeOverFear]

5. Susie Mudrak

did I spell her name right? She got thrown under the bus too.

It's crazy.

[Arkana]

6. Add Senator Kirk (D-MA) to the list.

[Undercurrent]

7. Get ready for bus to rev up, and run over

Al Franken.

Franken: Dems Unified Behind 'Historic' Health Reform Legislation
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/19/franken-dems-unified-behi_n_398183.html

They better be shoppin' for a bigger bus!

[MerryBlooms]

12. I saw that. Man oh man. n/t

.

[Undercurrent]

16. Joe Biden is now under the bus.

.

[Arkana]

17. So much for being the hero of the anti-Afghan war crowd.

[Undercurrent]

18. Add:

Former Senator Bob Kerrey
Rep. Anthony Weiner


http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/12/18/weiner-dean/

[euphoria12leo]

20. Howard Dean is their hero now.

He doesn't have a vote but he's in knee deep. Oh, according to some Bernie Sanders was forced to change his vote by the administration. Forced, this coming from people who say this administration can't do anything and the President is weak.

BTW Kathleen Sebelius was thrown under the bus. It's awfully crowded under the bus.


:dilemma:

[Undercurrent]

21. One more will soon join

the crushed ones.

Jacob S. Hacker - Inventor Of The Public Option

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x78736

[euphoria12leo]

23. You're brave to post the thread

He's doomed. Just wait, when he said "the most progressive President of my generation" the attack dogs will smell blood. Waiting for comments.

[Undercurrent]

24. Right you are.

Not about the brave part. I'm to old and sick to be brave. I'll leave that to the strong ones, and thank goodness for them!

Anyway, the thread is being flat out ignored. No posts.

[Cha]

29. Dean should be there by now..

<snip>

"This morning, Howard Dean walked back from earlier statements encouraging Democrats to “kill” the Senate health care bill. On Thursday, Dean wrote that “this bill would do more harm than good to the future of America,” but during his appearance on Meet The Press, Dean argued that yesterday’s manager’s amendment significantly improved the legislation. “I would let this thing go to conference committee and let’s see if we can fix it some more,” Dean said:"

<more>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=77064&mesg_id=79612

[NJmaverick]

25. It's sad how the anti Obama/Dem crowd dismisses anyone that disagrees with their agenda

even if a week before the swore the person was brilliant and someone that should never be questioned.

[euphoria12leo]

26. It this gets any worse someone is going to have to start

a new site just for Obama supporters. With a secret code to gain entry.
New thread: Obama could have been something different, he ain't. I'm not going to read it. More b.s.

[Arkana]

27. Add Russ Feingold--he's announced he's voting for the bill.

Sounds like they're running out of allies.

[Cha]

28. Oh, really. Must not be such a piece

of dead in the water pos afterall if mr "investigate Obama czars" will be voting for it.

[Cha]

30. Statement from Feingold..still gets his jabs in there on the White House..

Cross post..GDP

Sunday, December 20, 2009

“I’ve been fighting all year for a strong public option to compete with the insurance industry and bring health care spending down. I continued that fight during recent negotiations, and I refused to sign onto a deal to drop the public option from the Senate bill. Unfortunately, the lack of support from the administration made keeping the public option in the bill an uphill struggle. Removing the public option from the Senate bill is the wrong move, and eliminates $25 billion in savings. I will be urging members of the House and Senate who draft the final bill to make sure this essential provision is included.

“But while the loss of the public option is a bitter pill to swallow, on balance, the bill still delivers meaningful reform, and the cost of inaction is simply too high. This bill significantly expands coverage and helps protect Wisconsinites from high costs and insurance company abuses, such as denying or restricting coverage based on pre-existing conditions. The bill also improves a flawed Medicare formula that denies Wisconsin fair reimbursement rates, encourages the kind of low-cost, high-value care practiced in our state, increases access to home and community-based long-term care, and reduces federal budget deficits by $132 billion over the next decade.”


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x79803

He's such a freakin' angel.

[Arkana]

31. I agree with Feingold--I think removing the public option was the wrong move.

[Cha]

32. Yeah, I do too..but the

way he presents himself is what I don't like.

[Born_A_Truman]

33. They're gonna need a bigger bus...

http://www.thecitywire.com/index.php?q=node/7435

Sen Blanche Lincoln

[euphoria12leo]

36. Move over

make room for John Harwood. His comment to Liberals, 'Lay off the Hallucinogenic drugs' earned him a spot under the bus.

[cliffordu]

37. Me.

And grantcart.

[ginnyinWI]

38. I wonder how big the "D" in DU really is.

Seems so many would prefer to be called Independent or Green or what have you. They only vote Dem because it's the party that can get a nominee for President. So the minute something goes against their liberal purity, they start to belly-ache. They don't believe in big tents, really.

If the Dems started letting this fringe run things, they would look as ridiculous as the GOP pandering to their tea bags, libertarians, fundies etc.

I think DU should be more correctly called Lefty Underground or something like that.