Pres. Obama's lack of strict Ideology and how it bugs his many idelogical critics

[FrenchieCat]

In matters of politics, there are those who justify their beliefs based on their ideology, and other who do not. There are those who are willing to bend their ideology to achieve progress and others who will not.

The President is not an ideologue, as most who subscribe to compromise as a way of getting things done, even if it isn't everything, cannot be lalebed as strict ideologues, but rather they are considered pragmatists.

A pragmatist: A person who tends to set aside their ideals or higher goals in order to pursue lesser, more achievable objectives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatist

on the other hand,

Many of Pres. Obama's critics are Ideologues. They do not bend in the name of achieving less because they have higher goals.

An Ideologue
1 : an impractical idealist : theorist
2 : an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/IDEOLOGUE


It is very important to understand that both of these approaches to any extreme are not for the best.
Extreme Pragmatists who aren't led by some point of reference known as their ideology may lack principles,

while extreme ideologists who are not interested in compromise cannot advance higher goals, unless all who have the power agree with their ideology, or relent to it.


Our democracy does not allow for extreme ideologues to reign for any length of time,
in particular if the ideology that is being pushed trumps doing anything positive for the masses who exercise the democracy.

Ideologue trapped in a world of pragmatism often believe nothing will change unless
the masses are made to suffer for their sins.

Pragmatists trapped in a world of Ideologues often realize that they can only make incremental changes usually at great risk understanding that they cannot achieve uncompromised sweeping gains.


In a way, it is a religion that each is preaching;
the only difference is who their GOD is that they worship-

A Pragmatist's GOD is called progress and movement,
and in order to adhere to it, will plead for logic, process and perseverance.

And Ideologue's GOD is called principles,
and in order to adhere to it, will plead ideal, cause and effect, and steadfastness.

The question then becomes which one is best for our times?

Those working for progress,
or those wishing the need for a plague upon your house?

Hint: One can qualify as a fundamentalist,
while the other cannot.

[NJmaverick]

1. Very well done Frenchie! Very well done

I really think that this is the one of the fundamentals at work here.

[FrenchieCat]

2. I was debating wether to post this on GDP.....

considering that I am head cheerleader and all.....
I'm sure the automatic Unrec's and the Pile-on will be delivered in a
well executed SWAT like precision!

But all hell, I'm gonna do it anyways.
Call me Cpt. Courageous for short! :rofl:

Meanwhile, we can have a regular calm conversation here in this thread,
and allow the Fundamentalists go Kamakazee over there!

[HughMoran]

7. "SWAT like precision!"

Oh man, they've heard that GDP was more pro-Obama and have invaded the place like so many termites on nice soft wet wood. Don't give up - never give up.

[Cha]

3. It drives them crazier than

they ever were.

[treestar]

4. This is good, Frenchie

Describes it very well.

[FrenchieCat]

5. I think folks are getting pissed over at the same thread on GDP.....

which is now back at 0 Recs, like clockwork.

The fact that minds are this closed,
shows what we are dealing with; and Liberals do not have closed minds..
so some of those folks are something else; just not true liberals.

[jaxx]

6. I rec'd it over there earlier. The bitters are busy tonight.

LOL

[Silver Gaia]

8. Just rec'd it for you over there... at least you're back at +1 for now.

Not that it will last. They have, indeed, been busy over there.

[HopeOverFear]

9. man, this post in GD:P really got the naysayers worked up

it's like you poked a stick in a beehive LOL