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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:18 AM
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Poor Katie Couric is still going down - worst week yet.
Edited on Wed May-30-07 10:20 AM by leftyladyfrommo
She was down to five million nine hundred thousand last week - worst yet. And every week her numbers get worse.

Charles Gibson is just getting better and better (he is the one I like to watch) He was at 7,780,000 plus.

I keep wondering how long CBS will let this go on. It is getting really embarrassing for them. All that money out and Katie is a total flop.

And they keep coming out with excuses. But I think the real reason is that Katie is just plain annoying. Its just her - her voice, the way she looks on camera. She is just a flop. And has been a real flop on 60 Minutes, too. She is just not good at that kind of reporting. Doesn't ask good questions, comes across really poorly.

This is so bad I'm starting to feel sorry for her.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:19 AM
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1. Katie will be alright
all that cash should help ease the sting a little.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:21 AM
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2. Oh, money wise she will be fine.
But talk about a horrible career failure! That would be devastating after so many years of being popular.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:24 AM
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7. She needs the same advice that Radiohead does:
When you're successful, build on it, don't set it on fire.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:22 AM
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3. C-ya Katie "Doing a heck of job Kate .... heck of a job."
Edited on Wed May-30-07 10:23 AM by Botany



We are #3 We are #3!

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:23 AM
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4. Can Katie. Catch Keith.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:23 AM
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5. Katie Couric is symbolic of the problem
News should be about news. Not about ratings.

I swear the news should be a mandated part of any media corporation that is essentially cut off from the management of the corporation but funded by law. As long as management of a Corporation has a say in how the news is run it will always trend towards sensationalism and pabulum.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:23 AM
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6. they put her on 60 Minutes?! Why don't they just call it Hard Copy then?
seriously, when they made her anchor, they might as well have taken the word "news" off the title and just call it "CBS Evening" so it would be like a morning coffee klatch show with recipes for meatloaf and stories about people who put lipstick on their dogs.

There are a lot of good women TV journalist. Katie Couric is not one of them.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:26 AM
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9. I know. Why on earth did CBS pick her? I will never understand.
The minute I heard that she was in the running I just shook my head.

And these guys are in charge of running a network? I wonder if the guy who made the decision to go with her has been fired.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:56 AM
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38. Maybe they thought the female demographic would resonate to Gidget Doing the News.
Doesn't work for me. Besides, I get my news fix from Olbermann.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:27 AM
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10. Wasn't that completely awful interview twith Edwards on 60 Minutes?
It was just horrible. "Some Say" will be a qhrase that will go down in history as "the" thing not to say.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:31 AM
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15. she used "some say" the fox news trick? I do remember that she hounded him about wife's cancer
I wonder if she'll do that with Fred Thompson.
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:33 AM
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20. Some people say she's an overpaid, airhead, loser n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 11:10 AM
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30. that said, I would still do her.
Edited on Wed May-30-07 11:10 AM by yurbud
but I wouldn't watch her do the news even if I was doing her.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 12:12 PM
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33. She did the Fox News trick of "Some people say"
Watch Robert Greenwald's 'Outfoxed' - Fox News is notorious for using "Some People Say" as a way of saying 'we heard one drunk bastard posting on the internets make a comment about this - what do you think about that'
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Blueberry_raspberry Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:33 AM
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34. Why'd she use her clout to get an anchor job? Stick with what you know.
She was making a bazillion dollars doing her morning schtick. Should have stuck with it. If she needed a change she should have gone for something else. Don't force yourself on us as a hard news anchor just because you have the clout.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:25 AM
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8. Why did they hire her ?
How many clueless high-paid network executives didn't think this through and thought she would be worth the money?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:27 AM
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11. Because news is about ratings
There was also a colossal miscalculation of the target audience. But the company figured that Couric had the audience they wanted so switching her to evening would shore up their numbers. They of course forgot that morning and evening viewing habits tend to differ. They were blinded by her numbers. They were just so big that they figured there had to be carry over. They forgot that there can also be rejection and loss of audience.

Greed. Greed is why they hired her. And the fact that Corporations cannot think long term.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:33 AM
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19. if it was really all about ratings, Jeff Gannon would be a bigger household name than Lewinsky
it's about protecting certain interests and shaping opinion.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:35 AM
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23. Only in as much as
it affects the power and profit of the Corporation involved.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:59 AM
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27. Bush gives them favors that protect power & profits, so they protect him
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:28 AM
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12. If there are no infomercials or t.v. preachers on, I'll watch her.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:30 AM
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I can't watch her. She makes me shudder. Not as bad as Bush
does - but pretty bad.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:29 AM
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13. The woman can't seem to pull off looking serious without
looking pouty or evil. She's good with fluff all smiles and snide comments but with real news she just comes across as mean and rude. Sometimes she does this thing where she glares from under her eyebrows and she just looks evil.

Besides she's on the wrong side of the issues. It is no longer "in" to be so pro-administration. Aside from it being dangerous for the country, being such a neocon is out of style anymore, no matter what the remaining third of the country wants you believe.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:31 AM
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16. O know. She looks awful when she looks up into the camera. n'/t
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:31 AM
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17. The irony is if we had real news how we feel about her wouldn't matter
The news would be the news. It would be read flat. But the news needs to make ratings. It needs to sell soap. So they have to pitch the right feeling instead of the real information.
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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:30 AM
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14. That's life in the big leagues.
n/t
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:33 AM
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18. using focus group to find out "what audiences want to hear"
Edited on Wed May-30-07 10:33 AM by npincus
on the evening news said it all. The program deserves to die. Bring back Schieffer!
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:34 AM
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21. She is lost without her "perky" schtick. The "evening news" as
an institution has become a farce. In 20 minutes they pretend to tell you things you haven't already heard five times during the day and to explain it all "in depth."
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:34 AM
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22. She exhibits no journalistic integrity, and comes across as having no depth....
CBS could have chosen John Roberts or Scott Pelley and been way better off than bringing in Couric for a boatload of money.

Harry Smith would run rings around Katie since he knows how to question people who are being evasive or just plain lying.

Soon CBS will be forced to make a decision on who takes her place. It is a money and numbers game. They are going to take one heck of a beating for this disaster, but the sooner the better given the 2008 Election coverage is a cash cow for the networks -- and IMHO Katie will not cut it.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:37 AM
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24. I will never understand how CBS, the home of Murrow and Cronkite, ever chose Katie.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:38 AM
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25. Well, they sacrificed Dan Rather and they deserve everything they get
for choosing a lightweight like Katie to replace such a fine journalist. Rather seemed to be the only talking head who actually felt the war was not on the up and up. That said I have always admired Charlie Gibson. I told myself I would never watch ABC again after the Walt Disney idiots ran that anti-Clinton movie just before the election; so far I have not. However, I might occasionaly relent and watch Gibson. I rarely watch the evening news anyway.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 10:41 AM
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26. I really can't understand how she might be considered a *real* journalist.
Edited on Wed May-30-07 11:09 AM by lpbk2713



Does CBS have a "News" department as such? Or is it all just "Entertainment"?

Either way Couric falls far short of the mark AFAIC.



Ed to ad: If CBS were to replace Couric with Linda Ellerbe I would watch.






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Blueberry_raspberry Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:36 AM
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35. She can't. She hasn't paid her dues as a news person.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 11:05 AM
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28. She's Be On That New CNN Show...
"Newswomen Without Gravitas"...also featuring Paula Zahn, Soledad O'Brien and Contessa Brewer. First show will be an interview with Daryn Kagan.

Have no fear, there'll also be a "Newsmen Without Juevos"...hosted by Anderson Cooper along with Rick Sanchez and John Gibson. The producers of this show are having major problems as the list of qualified stenographers goes way beyond the 52 weeks originally planned.

:sarcasm:
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rusty_parts2001 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 11:18 AM
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31. They can have a confab on how many "Depends"
Larry King goes through in a day.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:45 AM
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37. "Newswomen Without Gravitas"
You forgot Nancy Grace on that list too.

Katie should be on a tabloid "news" program, not the evening news.

Side note, how long did that Connie Chung experiment last a few years back?
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 11:09 AM
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29. too many people distrust her
Republicans point to her as a prime example of the 'liberal media' and Democrats dislike and distrust her from her days on the Today show and her appalling interview of the Edwards.

How she can be viewed through such different lenses is interesting, but it's CBS's main problem with her - she's viewed as a partisan by both sides.

I've watched her a few times and I don't think as an anchor that she's terrible, but as an editor she is. There's far more fluff now on CBS than on any of the other two network broadcasts and I've lost interest after about 10 minutes of her show. We can get fluff from cable, from the networks I expect more hard news.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 12:09 PM
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32. "Some people may say" my theory about Katie Couric is of tin-foil-hat substance...
Edited on Wed May-30-07 12:14 PM by 8_year_nightmare
I'd be interested in hearing some specific examples from a Rethug of liberal-slanted comments from Katie Couric. I watched the Today Show for years, from the moment she was hired until the days that Clinton was going through the impeachment debacle, & I know firsthand that a Rethug couldn't come up with one example from her Today years.

Before the boy king entered his reign of terror in 2000 where "up" is "down" in the U.S., my theory about Dan Rather's demise & Katie Couric's hiring by CBS could easily be labeled as a tin-foil-hat theory, but because I simply don't know for sure & have no proof, it's just a plain theory of mine. It goes like this:

When Poppy ruled the land, he & Dan Rather locked horns on live tv & it was ugly. (Jan. 25, 1988 An interview with George Sr. turns smackdown when Rather calls the Iran-contra-plagued vice president "ineffective" and the newly non-wimpy Bush needles him about the tennis walk-off.) During our comprehensive six-year education about the BFEE, we've learned that they can be unprofessionally punitive when it comes to public slights. Wasn't Rather just doing his job by pointing out the obvious on the news?

Poppy & Babs love Katie Couric & the feeling is mutual. Katie gave the Bushes a lot of airtime when Poppy was in charge & she literally gushed over them. She also gushed over Nancy Reagan as they toured the just-opened Reagan Library, during which Nancy commented that "Ronnie & Pope Paul had a lot in common", with Couric gushing admirably at Nancy.

After all that I've learned about the BFEE & how they operate, I believe that the Bushes got the CBS job for Katie after they got rid of Dan Rather.





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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:12 AM
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41. Excellent post!
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Decruiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:40 AM
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36. Yep, I feel sorry for Katie. Not. Not in my lifetime or yours. n/t
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:58 AM
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39. BONUS!
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 03:01 AM by Aya Reiko
According to the Neilsen Ratings, the viewership of the CBS Evening News was the lowest since 1987 as of the first week of May.

:rofl:

This is not just bad, it is :wow: bad. I'd bet good money CBS suits are already looking for someone to replace her.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:04 AM
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40. Kinda fun, watching a Tim Russert protege
doing the Hindenberg. Way to go Pumpkinhead, you really know how to pick 'em.
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razzleberry Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:01 AM
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42. when there is NPR news ...
and the internet,

I find it hard to believe
5 million TVs are tuned to Katie
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