Has The US Ever Left After Any Military Intervention?

[ThomWV]

I asked myself that question. Is there any country that we have gone into that we ever got out of? At first I thought of Cuba and the Spanish-American war (1898) but then I remembered out base at Guantanamo.

[frogcycle]

1. Grenada?

[onenote]

2. Vietnam

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. Vietnam

[Tom Joad]

4. Yes, Vietnam, and it was a beautiful historic sight. I love to see defeated imperialism.

[ThomWV]

6. Not to burst a bubble, but you can get a McDonalds double cheesburger in Siagon.

So I'm just sayin', maybe impearialism didn't get defeated so badly after all.

[onenote]

7. by that definition. we're "in" lots of countries we never went into militarily

[liberal N proud]

8. YET!

[onenote]

13. delete

[Tom Joad]

15. I know, you're right, it was a temporary victory to be sure. WTO

and all those other things make it near impossible for a nation to develop independently. Not to mention the US did destroy the country before leaving it.

And god knows that imperialism is all the rage, and hardly questioned by leaders of either major party. Only a few quibbles exist among our ruling class as to how best to expand US/Corporate empire... no question they have the same goals in mind,however.

[Tom Joad]

16. Reminds me of my favorite Friedman quote

"The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist. McDonald's cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas... And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley's technologies to flourish is called the U.S. Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps." Thomas Friedman, very wealthy man.

If you all want this economic system to flourish (and make a few more rich, while makin' others poor), then you got to support war.

[David__77]

17. I don't think that means that Vietnam is subjugated.

So there are some McDonald's. I'm more concerned by shoe factories, for example. I don't have a problem with the Chinese model of foreign direct investment (being applied in Vietnam as well), so long as the host countries are receiving technology and managerial know-how that will ultimately benefit domestically-owned enterprises, whether private or state-owned. If this happens, then perhaps it is not imperialism dominating, but imperialism getting used to benefit the people's well-being over the long-term.

[TahitiNut]

20. Funny thing about 'Communism' ... it doesn't usually prohibit small business.

I'd be interested in understanding how the McDonald's was set up in Viet Nam, China, or Cuba. Is it a corporate-owned restaurant? Who owns the property? How are the profits, if any, distributed?

I see a big difference between corporate ownership of the natural resources (e.g. land, minerals, oil) in a nation and an owner-operated business that has no monopoly interest in anything. I've seen no example of (small-c) communism at the state level in the world. State (big-C) Communism is usually more like a corporate state, imho, particularly in (and outside) China. ChinaInc operates like a global corporation. I haven't seen the same behavior from Cuba or Viet Nam.

[leftchick]

5. Grenada?

:shrug:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada

[TwilightGardener]

9. Somalia. Lebanon.

[Smarmie Doofus]

10. Russia/Soviet Union?

Military assistance to counterrevolutionaries (Whites?) post revolution.

[lpbk2713]

11. Woodrow Wilson sent Gen Pershing in to Mexico after Pancho Villa.

I guess you could call that a military intervention.

Pershing's troops had a few encounters with some of Villa's combatants but eventually left with Villa still in command of his forces.

[TygrBright]

12. I don't think we have any military forces in Vietnam anymore. n/t

[onenote]

14. France

For all intents and purposes. I think there are just a few hundred US service personnel in France, a de minimis number compared to the number that invaded in 1944.

[NoPasaran]

18. Tripoli

[baldguy]

19. We've only left after we've been kicked out.