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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 12:26 PM
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Here's an idea... Call Sampson/Goodling/McNulty to testify on a panel....
put them under oath, make them sit beside each other, ask factual questions which they disagree on, and watch them call each other liars.

However, it might be instructive to have them all confirm certain facts that lead directly to the White House.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 12:37 PM
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1. Call Bush, Gonzales, Berenson, Mehlman, Abramoff, Ralston, Rove, Cheney
Were George W. Bush, Alberto Gonzales, Bradford Berenson, Karl Rove, and/or Susan Ralston involved in quashing investigation of fellow Bush team member, Jack Abramoff?
From: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x995236

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Published by The Nation
Can Justice Be Trusted?
by Ari Berman

Now that Jack Abramoff's dealings with members of Congress have drawn criminal indictments, the disgraced lobbyist's ties to the Bush Administration are starting to get attention........... Little notice has been paid, however, to the Justice Department, charged with prosecuting Abramoff. Evidence has emerged that the department played an active role in shutting down an investigation of Abramoff's dubious lobbying activities in Guam in November 2002. The story raises questions about whether Justice can be trusted with this historic investigation--and whether top White House officials actively abetted Abramoff's shady dealings as early as 2001. ....

......At the time Abramoff, a former member of George W. Bush's transition team, was a $750-an-hour lobbyist with access to the highest levels of the Republican Party........"Abramoff claimed he had a top political guy at DOJ he could go to ..." says a source

...strategy was "... to get Republicans to go to DOJ and the White House and say, Why have you not replaced that Democrat who's been acting US Attorney?"

Black contacted the Public Integrity Section, the unit currently heading the department's Abramoff task force,...Justice forwarded the information to the Deputy Attorney General's office and the Office of Legal Policy (OLP)...

Sources close to the probe say the information was likely passed on to then-White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales, who worked closely with Justice on such matters. "Those heads of OLP who are pretty well connected deal directly with the White House counsel," says Lee Casey, a former OLP aide under Reagan and Bush I. (Black declined to comment and Justice spokesman Bryan Sierra refused to provide details about an "ongoing criminal investigation.")

...In an e-mail dated October 1, 2001, Abramoff told ... Ashcroft's chief of staff, David Ayres, whom he hosted at a Washington Redskins Abramoff mentioned an upcoming meeting with Ashcroft and another meeting, at a pickup basketball game, between the Attorney General and an Ashcroft aide who'd become an Abramoff staffer. "We'll hope that higher ups will take some time to squash this on their own," Abramoff wrote. Sure enough, the report never came out and Justice demoted its author, regional security specialist Robert Meissner.....

Black convened a grand jury, which subpoenaed the Abramoff contract ... The next day the Bush Administration announced that Black would be replaced as US Attorney and demoted him to Assistant US Attorney, after twelve years on the job. ... "Fred was removed because he asked to indict Abramoff," says one of Black's colleagues at Justice ...

.....At the time of Black's demotion, former Abramoff aide Susan Ralston was working as a top assistant to Rove ......Black's investigation into Abramoff's activities was forceably halted. Reportedly, the FBI and the DOJ Inspector General have begun looking into Black's demotion. ...

More broadly, how can Justice be trusted to investigate a matter in which it is so deeply implicated? ....Bush nominated ... Public Integrity Section head, Noel Hillman, to a federal judgeship in New Jersey and named a temporary replacement mid-investigation. Justice can prosecute the case without any political pressure "as long as the targets are members of Congress," says former Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder. "If, however, you start to develop ties between Congress, Abramoff and people in the White House, it becomes problematic, especially from an appearance perspective. Because of the Deputy Attorney General's and the Attorney General's ties to the President, the need for an outside counsel becomes greater."

Otherwise, how can the public be sure that the President's man, Alberto Gonzales, will conduct an honest, thorough investigation of Abramoff when the targets might include his top deputies, his former White House colleagues, his predecessor, his boss--indeed, himself?
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 12:46 PM
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4. I do not believe Bush/Cheney will ever testify (even in an Impeachment Hearing)...
Rove/Mehlman/Card/Bartlett/Ralston and yes, Libby, are a possibility --but only because they likely could be imprisoned for failing to testify AND there is sufficient proof of evidenced against them that they can see prison awaiting.

The DOJ personnel are much more vulnerable.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 12:42 PM
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2. It could be like a game show, maybe Hollywood Squares
Edited on Wed May-30-07 12:44 PM by BOSSHOG
Washington Squares, with a different criminal in the center square each episode. Or Jeopardy - Make sure your answers are in the form of a question. Or What's My Line - "I worked for gonzo and I insisted that I be given immunity from criminal prosecution before I would swear to tell the truth, because if I didn't get immunity, I'd go to jail. Who Am I? george bush owes me big time because when he was governor of texas I got him out of jury duty to prevent his drunk driving record from becoming public knowledge. Which gop criminal am I? I'm a coward who lied about why I didn't join the Army, I have a drug problem and there is some question about my sexual orientation because I took viagra with my bought friends to a country which allows child prostitution. There is only one way I can make a living but there are Americans who turn to me for the "truth." I work on right wing hate radio. Which dumbass lying enabler of george bush am I?

And for today's grand prize answer this tuffy. Which member of the bush administration said "I don't recall" more then any other member?

Yes, conservative visitors, your criminal political party has been reduced to a fucking joke.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 12:43 PM
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3. Toss in Gonzales and you got a deal.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 12:50 PM
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5. Might be fun
I wonder how long it would take to disintegrate into physical violence between them.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:41 PM
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6. Signs of Disagreement Among Panelists Could Be Easily Spotted With The Right Equipment...
Each panelist could be given a four foot long rod with a heavy rock lashed to the end.

If one of the panelists states something untrue about another, the offended panelist(s) would use their rod to hit the offending panelist 'up side the head'.

That way disagreement may be duly noted without interrupting the flow of testimony before the Committee.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:54 PM
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7. I've thought the same thing - they will keep going around in circles otherwise
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