No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval

[neuvocat]

US citizens who apply for a job will need prior approval from Department of Homeland Security under the terms immigration bill passed by the Senate this week.

American Civil Liberties Union pointed out that the DHS's Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) is error plagued and if the department makes a mistake in determining work eligibility, there will be virtually no way to challenge the error or recover lost wages due to the bill’s prohibitions on judicial review.

Even current employees will need to obtain eligibility approval from the DHS Within 60 days of the Immigration Reform Act of 2006 becoming law.

"EEVS would be a financial and bureaucratic nightmare for both businesses and workers," said Timothy Sparapani, ACLU Legislative Counsel. "Under this already flawed program no one would be able to work in the U.S. without DHS approval - creating a ‘No Work List’ similar to the government’s ‘No Fly List.’ We need immigration reform, but not at this cost."



link to article

[Fridays Child]

1. Memo to Congress...

Fix this, NOW, you incompetent, self-serving assholes. :nuke:

[Vincardog]

2. That is the point. When we all become beggars for alms from our betters

we will stop thinking about quaint things like Constitutional Rights and the rule of law.

[AZBlue]

3. Is it to prove citizenship or for other reasons? We already have to prove citizenship to get a job

(or employement eligibility if of foreign citizenship) so if that's all it is, there's really no difference - except that those documents can easily be forged, as we are seeing every day.

[snappyturtle]

19. To me this EEVS is a way for the government who doesn't know

who's in the country to make up for their imcompetence and make all of us jump through rings. They know all the stuff they want AGAIN already...what's the point? And the employers get stuck with doing all of this....to me that's trying to make them into immigration agents. Well, * can hire a lot more of his cronies for this program. imho

[PDJane]

4. Simply amazing.

How's that home of the brave and the land of the free thing working for you?

When do we get pitchforks on the lawn?

Thank you for this..........

[19jet54]

5. Empire building!

No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!
Ronald Reagan

Boy do the Bushies cause Ronald Reagan to roll over in his grave or what? Different as night and day! :)

[no_hypocrisy]

6. Wow, when so many people have red flags, and can't legitimately work,

there will be quite some underground economy going on.

[Skidmore]

16. There will also be quite an uprising.

[melody]

7. If you do not belong to the Party, you cannot get a job

My that sounds like an old fascist empire of recent vintage ...

[sellitman]

10. I was thinking the same thing.

Scary shit.

Scary shit has become waaaaaaaaay to commonplace.

[DBoon]

13. if you belonged to the wrong Party

you could not get work in 1950's America

Think of the potential for an employment blacklist here

[DBoon]

14. Who won the Cold War again?

It keeps sounding like the bad guys did. At least when i was growing up, this sort of stuff was what made Soviet Russia evil and bad.

[LSK]

15. BINGO!!!

FUCK FUCK FUCK!

[shanti]

20. OR

if you don't have a microchip, you don't get a job...and the party hands out the chips:(

[neuvocat]

8. kick

[iconoclastic cat]

9. From the PDF:

p 201, line 22:
(A) CRITICAL EMPLOYERS.—As of the date that is 180 days after the date of the en
actment of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006, the Secretary may require
any employer or class of employers to participate in the System with respect to employees hired prior to, on, or after such date of enactment if the Secretary designates such employer or class of employers, in the Secretary’s sole and unreviewable discretion, as a critical employer based on critical infrastructure, national security, or homeland security needs.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:s1348pcs.txt.pdf

[neuvocat]

12. In other words:

you can't challenge it in court because judges wouldn't have any authority to review your case.

[iconoclastic cat]

23. People, I'm finding debunkings of that article online. Hoax alert. nt

[iconoclastic cat]

24. .

oops, mispost

[windy252]

29. Where are you finding the debunkings?

Because I've searched and can't find it? Any possibility of a link?

[azurnoir]

11. Behind in student loan payments? Visa card?

no job for u

[AzDar]

17. Anything, ANYTHING pushed by this Administration should be suspect at this point.

They do NOTHING to benefit others, U.S citizens or undocumented workers, only themselves and their cronies.
Congress should run out the clock on every piece of legislation sent to them by Bush, for the good of the Country.
Will we last until Jan. 2009?

[shanti]

22. will we last until 2009?

the question is will THEY still be there in 2009!?

[enid602]

18. gov't

It also gives the government the potential of ensuring that only people of like minds are employed in the ever-expanding military/industrial complex.

[WilliamPitt]

21. Misleading headline

Should be "No DHS jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval"

[iconoclastic cat]

25. People, this may be a hoax. I'm finding debunkings online. nt

[sinkingfeeling]

26. Why do you folks keep posting this? NO BILL S.1348 passed the Senate last week.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-1348

May 9, 2007 Introduced
May 10, 2007 Scheduled for Debate
- Voted on in Senate
- Voted on in House
- Signed by President

This bill was considered in committee which has recommended it be considered by the Senate as a whole. Although it has been placed on a calendar of business, the order in which bills are considered and voted on is determined by the majority party leadership.
Bill Overview
Sponsor: Sen. Harry Reid show cosponsors (4)
Cosponsors
Sen. Edward Kennedy
Sen. Patrick Leahy
Sen. Robert Menéndez
Sen. Ken Salazar
Cosponsorship information sometimes is out of date.
Last Action: May 25, 2007: Considered by Senate.
Full Text: View Full Text of Bill

[many a good man]

27. PHEW! I almost registered Republican because of this!

It always helps to check out the facts. :9

[KatyaR]

28. There is no way that DHS will EVER be able to do the required background checks

in 60 days. They are just not that organized--I see massive chaos ahead.

And what about the huge cost to employers? Surely they aren't aware of this or they would be raising holy hell. I see a whole new industry developing from this--a third party to drive those background checks from the government. This will cost US business and industry billions of dollars.

As for me, I'm sure that's the end of the road as far as employment is concerned--too many financial issues to list. Time to find another path . . . .