If Dennis Kucinich went to a Third Party in 2008 would you consider following him?

[bryant69]

Just out of curiosity.

Bryant
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[WI_DEM]

1. Never.

I don't want the GOP in the WH again after 2008. But DK will never do the third party route.

[ulysses]

2. I'd follow him to a third party

before I'd follow Hillary to one.

[jpgray]

3. This is the correct answer

:D

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. I was just sitting here hoping Hillary would find a third party

[ulysses]

26. no shit.

:hi:

[jpgray]

4. Most of what I like about Kucinich has to do with his working within the system

Unlike Nader, he doesn't just bombthrow and make claims without any need to ever back them up. Staying elected and having accountability all while holding on to one's progressive views isn't easy. It's far easier to remain outside the system and yell about it.

[ThomWV]

5. If Gore Doesn't Run As The Democrat I'll Bolt.

Otherwise I'm a Gore Democrat.

[jpgray]

6. What will your bolting change, I wonder?

[ThomWV]

17. I'll tell you what it will change - my lifelong habit of robotically voting for Democrats

Fuck it, I'm done with this blind loyality shit.

[pnwmom]

27. You're a lifelong Democrat and yet there isn't a single other candidate

besides Gore who could appeal to you. Some Democrat.

[Dawgs]

7. The only way I would vote for Kucinich is if he won the nomination.

Which means I will never vote for him.

[ulysses]

9. Feingold avatar, but won't vote for DK?

Odd, that. Just sayin'.

[bryant69]

10. Isn't Fiengold a Democrat?

I must admit I have been wrong in the past, but I could of sworn . . .

Bryant

[ulysses]

12. of course, as is Kucinich.

Your point?

[bryant69]

15. If Kucinich left the party, as the poll postulates

He wouldn't be a Democrat anymore. If Fiengold followed him, he wouldn't be a Democrat either.

I don't think either result is all that likely, incidentally.

Bryant

[ulysses]

16. neither do I.

I don't think either result is all that likely, incidentally.

What's the point of this thread again?

[bryant69]

20. To annoy you and waste your time

Also, while I don't think it's likely, it is possible. I mean Kucinich has to be frustrated with his position in the party. He has to be annoyed that after being right on Iraq he's still relegated by the media and the party bigwigs to kook position (I would be).

I better make sure I'm read correctly; I'm saying that the Media and Democratic Elite see Kucinich as a kook, not that I see him as a kook.

And of course it is interesting to measure how frustrated people are with the Democratic Party, and this seems like a good way of measure that.

Bryant

[ulysses]

25. heh, nice try

but this is relaxation for me. :D

I mean Kucinich has to be frustrated with his position in the party.

He's hardly alone, if so.

And of course it is interesting to measure how frustrated people are with the Democratic Party, and this seems like a good way of measure that.

Perhaps, but you miss those of us who are plotting to regain control of the party over nightly games of checkers.

[Demeter]

8. As a Conscientious Voter, I Consider All Options

even Canada.

[BringEmOn]

11. Hell, I'd follow Dennis to a SECOND party.

[gollygee]

13. I'm a fan of his, but I wouldn't be a fan anymore if he went to a third party

for the election

[Fridays Child]

14. I have immense respect for the man and I love his vision for America...

...but he can't win, and I know, in the end, that I would be wasting my vote. We are too close to the precipice to sacrifice the chance for a little progress on the altar of untarnished moral principles. I hate to be so cynical but I can't change reality.

Still, I don't want him to stop doing what he's doing. He needs to continue to articulate his vision. It's the only completely ethical one, and, without his voice, all hope might truly be lost.

[leftofthedial]

18. ...assuming the "democratic" party continues to be

a phony assemblage that is neither an alternative to repukes nor consistent with the traditional principles of the Democratic Party.

If the DLC stays in power within the "democratic" party, I'm leaving anyway. They are repukes.

[Individualist]

22. You're right about the DLC

"This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way."

www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

[Cleita]

19. If we get runoff voting I will follow him.

If not I will vote for the Democratic candidate even if I must hold my nose.

[MadBadger]

21. You in love with polls?

[bryant69]

23. Yes I am

I love polls almost as much as I love the sound of my own voice.

Bryant

[tech3149]

28. Gotta call bogus poll format

We can not establish any viable third party until we do a few things to change the electoral process. Instant runoff voting and proportional representation are the best way to allow a third, or fourth party to grow. The framers of the constitution wanted no "factions" aka political parties because they were afraid of party loyalty overcoming sound judgment in governance. I only wish they had been wise enough to see those two options to avoid party politics.

In todays poorly informed and disconnected society, I would not want to see a constitutional convention to try and enact those changes. I just don't know the best way yo make those changes.