How soon til our party leaders get it? you CAN'T triangulate Iraq.

[Ken Burch]

The only way to be part of a successful antiwar effort is to REALLY commit to withdrawal, no efforts to find a middle ground, the middle ground we all know doesn't EXIST here. The party needs to embrace the antiwar side and defend us under fire, especially if its going to demand that we follow it on major policy leads.

It's time to face reality. To rephrase Jim Hightower, there's nothing in the middle of the Iraq road but smoldering fragments of armadillos.

[TwilightGardener]

1. What you call "triangulation" (a word with negative connotation)

some call compromise. I applaud efforts to find middle ground--I applaud bipartisanship. That's the way it's going to end, because that's political reality in a two-party Congress with Dems in a slim majority.

[Ken Burch]

6. Compromise is one thing. But on getting out of Iraq, there IS no "middle ground".

You either admit it was a mistake and get out, or you unquestioningly defend the status quo. There's nothing else. Period.

[bryant69]

2. It's kind of a pisser

Republicans and Conservatives have, in a way, been preparing the ground for this since the fall of Vietnam. The Party is spooked, and likely to remain so.

Bryant
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[leftchick]

3. yes but the bases and US Imperial palace!

we spent a lot of money on them. You do not really believe anyone will leave them vacant do you? I mean anyone?

[Dhalgren]

4. The Democratic Party has made it pretty clear that it is not a "left" party.

It is not an "anti-war" or "anti-occupation" party. It is a centrist party that leans right on many issues and leans left on other issues. It is an imperialist party, but one that claims more 'humanity' than the other one. Currently, there is no effective party representation for the anti-war movement and leftists are decidedly on their own.

[NotGivingUp]

5. How soon will everyone else get it? Neither party is working for us. nt

[elana i am]

7. i agree.

i'm bone tired of it all.

senseless death of innocent people isn't a game of partisan politics. if you're not trying to end it you're either guilty of neglect for being ignorant of the current state of affairs or guilty of murder by proxy.

i have no patience for ANY politician regardless of party affiliation who dickers around with human lives for the sake of political expedience. it does not fly with me because there is no excuse for not trying to prevent more lives being lost. bring them home now or consider yourself a murdering piece of shit.

[mmonk]

8. When people not on board with the empire project

replace those that are.