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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:35 PM
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Atrios: "Democrats went to war because they were scared of losing their elections. They stay ...
... there because they're scared of losing elections.

Ultimately it's all centered around oil, the endless needs of the military industrial complex, and various other financial interests masquerading as ideology. But there isn't one reason, just a grand harmonic convergence of wingnuttery.

The full text of "Why Do We Stay In Iraq?" is here: http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_05_27_archive.html#4072726633423645896


In_DEED.


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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:38 PM
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1. Yep. We have met the enemy and they are us.......
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:38 PM
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2. Thats a pretty good synopsis of our (Democrats) involvement in Iraq

nt
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:46 PM
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3. Politicians are temporary. Democracy is not.
Edited on Thu May-31-07 12:46 PM by Gregorian
You helped the surge and you will be purged.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:54 PM
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4. Watching the IWR vote...
was one of the most digusting displays of cowardice I have ever witnessed.

I have not forgotten.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:08 PM
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5. " ... one of the most digusting displays of cowardice I have ever witnessed." Yes, ...
... and let's count how many of our dear fellow Americans, and how many innocent Iraqi citizens have died since that disgusting display ...

I am increasingly convinced that the first persons that should be deployed when the US Congress and President start a war are all of their fighting age (18 to 45) children and grand children.


Peace.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:33 PM
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7. I don't think it was cowardice. It was mostly complicity
Democrats represent states and districts with defense contractors, and even if they don't get much money from big oil, they can imagine being on the receiving end of a right wing smear campaign.

It's all about the benjamins.

If you read the history of the DLC, the corporate suits realized they needed to hedge their bets and buy democrats as republicans because blatantly business owned politicians would not win in some areas. So you get senators like California's Dianne Feinstein, who is nice and liberal on cultural issues like abortion, gays, and gun control, but whose husband makes hundreds of millions on Iraq War contracts. And of course she voted for the war.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:24 PM
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10. You're right; it was complicity
The democrats who voted for IWR had access to the same information we did.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:29 PM
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6. money isn't wingnuttery--nuts aren't this successful
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:16 PM
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8. K&R "...grand harmonic convergence of wingnuttery..." Too cool! Too True! nt

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:22 PM
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9. Sorry, don't buy the talking point.
1. Over 130 Democrats voted against the war, contrast this to TWO Republicans.
2. Democrats were lied to like the rest of the nation.

I'm so tired of lumping Democrats in with Republicans, let's stop doing Limbaugh's work for him guys.

*sigh*
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