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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:19 PM
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Rs COVER-UP Continues: Secret Service routinely destroyed Dick Cheney's visitor records
"If you have something to hide, you better damn well hide it, or they will have your hide." The Idiot's Guide to Committing Crimes.

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White House follows new path to secrecy
By PETE YOST - Associated Press Writer
Thursday, May 31, 2007.
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/616/story/86503.html

According to government documents, the Secret Service routinely destroyed five of eight categories of information relating to visitors to Vice President Cheney's residence.

WASHINGTON --
A newly disclosed effort to keep Vice President Dick Cheney's visitor records secret is the latest White House push to make sure the public doesn't learn who has been meeting with top officials in the Bush administration.

Over the past year, lawyers for President Bush and Cheney have directed the Secret Service to maintain the confidentiality of visitor entry and exit logs, declaring them to be presidential records, exempt from a law requiring their disclosure to whoever asks to see them.

The drive to keep the logs secret, the administration says, is essential to assuring that the president and vice president receive candid advice to carry out their duties.

Cabinet officers often don't want to give up their meeting calendars to journalists. They have no choice under the Freedom of Information Act, which provides public access to some records kept by federal agencies.

But the FOIA disclosure law, which doesn't apply to Congress, also doesn't apply to presidential records. ........
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:29 PM
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1. This is wrong on every level that you can think of. This illustrates
PERFECTLY why the public needs access to these logs. What happens if you have criminals, crooks, liars, and thugs in the highest offices of OUR country? Like we do now. How do you catch them? How do you prove...

Oh wait. That's the point, isn't it? No records, no proof.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 02:08 PM
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4. Imagine the Reforms in 2009 (or sooner). Time to start a list, eh?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:36 PM
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2.  "candid advice" my ass
They aren't getting any candid advice they are doing customer meet and greets THEIR CUSTOMERS and that ain't you or me or anyone we ever met. This is basically just grip and grins with their cronies and they don't want anyone to know that that is about all they do.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:46 AM
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6. more like marching orders. Hey, a cover-up is a cover-up. Period.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:44 PM
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3. I guess we know who has the right to do as they wish
Please let these two bad men just go away forever
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:35 PM
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5. Of course we want a voice in where to. In jail they keep track of visitors!
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:56 PM
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7. Well that may be the best of all worlds but just away I would be
some what happy about.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 08:30 PM
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8. Lawyer: Cheney Visitor Logs Not Recorded = conservative religious leaders
Lawyer: Cheney Visitor Logs Not Recorded
PETE YOST | May 29, 2007 10:40 PM EST | AP
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070529/cheney-secrecy/


WASHINGTON — A lawyer for Vice President Dick Cheney told the Secret Service in September to eliminate data on who visited Cheney at his official residence, a newly disclosed letter states. The Sept. 13, 2006, letter from Cheney's lawyer says logs for Cheney's residence on the grounds of the Naval Observatory are subject to the Presidential Records Act.

Such a designation prevents the public from learning who visited the vice president.

The Justice Department filed the letter Friday in a lawsuit by a private group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, seeking the identities of conservative religious leaders who visited Cheney at his official residence.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:49 PM
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9. candid advice my ass
:grr:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:55 AM
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10. "Spreading that Good Old Time Religion with the Manure Spreader"
Was Falwell, a financier of Republican drty tricks and falsehoods, on the list?

HOW THE REV. JERRY FALWELL AND A CALIFORNIA POLITICAL ORGANIZATION HELPED FINANCE AND ORCHESTRATE AN EXTENSIVE ANTI-CLINTON PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN.
BY MURRAY WAAS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1029113#1029507

A conservative political organization with ties to the Rev. Jerry Falwell covertly paid more than $200,000 to individuals who made damaging allegations about President Clinton.... paid out over a three-year period, between l994 and l996, by Citizens for Honest Government, headquartered in Orange County....

... allegations -- some of which were either fabricated or grossly exaggerated -- were part of a covert and sophisticated political propaganda effort to influence public opinion against President Clinton.

One of the allegations, that Clinton protected an Arkansas-based cocaine-smuggling operation when he was governor of that state, spread from local talk radio shows to propaganda videos to the mainstream media, and eventually prompted an exhaustive, multimillion-dollar investigation by the House Banking Committee in 1994. The investigation concluded Clinton had nothing to do with the drug operation.

In another instance, in March, 1995, the Arkansas represenative of Citizens for Honest Government signed a contract agreeing to pay two Arkansa state troopers who had made questionable allegations supporting the theory that the late White House Counsel Vincent Foster had been murdered. ...

MORE: Swiftboating Bill Clinton: The Jerry Falwell / Orange County Connection
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1029113
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