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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:26 PM
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NYT: "Korea is an attractive analogy for...Bush...for a host of reasons" (complicit MSM, take two!)
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 02:39 PM by ProSense
News Analysis

With Korea as Model, Bush Team Ponders Long Support Role in Iraq

By DAVID E. SANGER
Published: June 3, 2007

WASHINGTON, June 2 — For the first time, the Bush administration is beginning publicly to discuss basing American troops in Iraq for years, even decades to come, a subject so fraught with political landmines that officials are tiptoeing around the inevitable questions about what the United States’ long-term mission would be there.

President Bush has long talked about the need to maintain an American military presence in the region, without saying exactly where. Several visitors to the White House say that in private, he has sounded intrigued by what he calls the “Korea model,” a reference to the large American presence in South Korea for the 54 years since the armistice that ended open hostilities between North and South.

But it was not until Wednesday that Mr. Bush’s spokesman, Tony Snow, publicly reached for the Korea example in talking about Iraq — setting off an analogy war between the White House and critics who charged that the administration was again disconnected from the realities of Iraq. He said Korea was one way to think about how America’s mission could evolve into an “over-the-horizon support role,” whenever American troops are no longer patrolling the streets of Baghdad.

The next day, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates also mentioned Korea, saying that establishing a long-term American garrison there was a lot smarter than the handling of Vietnam, “where we just left lock, stock and barrel.” He added that “the idea is more a model of a mutually agreed arrangement whereby we have a long and enduring presence but under the consent of both parties and under certain conditions.”

Korea is an attractive analogy for the Bush White House for a host of reasons: a half-century later, South Korea is a raucous democracy and one of the world’s biggest economies. The North is a broken, isolated state, though one that, improbably, has not only survived for more than 50 years but has built a small nuclear arsenal.

But Korea is also the kind of analogy that stokes the fears of those who see Iraq leading to unending war. The model suggests a near-permanent presence in Iraq, though presumably with far fewer troops than the nearly 150,000 now in place.

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The options: withdrawal from Iraq in one year or 50

But the US presence in Iraq is "much closer to colonialism, imperialism," Brzezinski explained. A good majority of Iraqis object to the presence of US troops, viewing them as foreign occupiers. Thus, Brzezinski noted, the US could never hope to sustain an enduring presence unless American leaders resigned themselves to facing enduring resistance. -- Zbigniew Brzezinski

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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:31 PM
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1. The Korean model is a far out fantasy
of the neo-cons. There is no way that a small contingent of American troops would be able to remain in Iraq indefinitely. If they ventured out of their highly secured base, they'd be attacked. If they simply sat in there and did nothing, they'd eventually be shelled into oblivion. That the media is even talking about this as a possibility just shows how stupid they really are.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:50 PM
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4. bad analogy
True. Korea was conventional warfare; Iraq is treet warfare. T
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:47 PM
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2. So who is the Communist North? Shiites? Sunnis? (Kurds wouldn't do.)
Juan Cole picks this apart brilliantly, as does Josh Marshall.

This is just the latest attempt to salvage something they can call victory, or in this case - delay the verdict for several generations.

We are fools if we attempt such a thing, but the permanent bases and the continued (mostly) Democratic silence on the permanent bases lead me to believe that the real powers that be have decided that we are stealing that oil, no matter what the cost.

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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:50 PM
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3. Another 54 years of babysitting
ahead.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:50 PM
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5. The spin begins
When will the media stop playing to Bush's insanity.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:17 PM
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6. Much of the American Foreign Policy Establishment
will be warming to this idea soon.

It hardly matters - the US has over 1,000 military installations worldwide - what's a few more?
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:23 PM
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7. How Many Troops Killed In Korea In The Last 50 Years
Almost none? Then STFU, Sanger.
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