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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:58 AM
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Tonight
Email from Jim Wallis @ Sojourners/Call to Renewal (http://www.sojo.net)...

Tonight

There are very few moments when we have the opportunity to turn the eyes of the nation away from the three-ring circus that our electoral process resembles and onto the concerns of those whom Jesus called the "least of these."

Tonight is one of those moments, as Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, and Barack Obama join us for a conversation about faith, values, and poverty broadcast live on CNN (7 p.m. Eastern / 4 p.m. Pacific).

And in hundreds of churches and homes across the country, people of faith like you will be gathering to watch the candidates and help us issue a prophetic challenge to put poverty at the top of the political agenda.

It's not too late to join them -- click here to find a watch party in your area.

We're calling the event "Faith Guiding Our Votes," because it will be a unique forum to ask questions not just about issues, but about values. Not just what policies the candidates propose, but why. Not just whether they believe privately, but about how they live out their faith in public life.

Be sure to stay tuned immediately after the forum (8 p.m. Eastern / 5 p.m. Pacific), as I'll be interviewed live on CNN by Paula Zahn to offer my own reaction to the evening's events.

Tonight also marks the launch of our efforts leading up to the 2008 election -- including a similar forum with the Republican candidates we're planning for the fall -- and the launch of our campaign to Vote Out Poverty, challenging candidates from both political parties to go on the record with specific plans for overcoming poverty at home and abroad.

I'm looking forward to it, and I hope you'll tune in.


Blessings,

Jim Wallis and the rest of the team at Sojourners/Call to Renewal



Pentecost 2007: http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=action.P07&item=pentecost07_main

A Presidential Forum on Faith, Values, and Poverty: http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=action.P07&item=pentecost07_candidates_forum

Pentecost 2007 schedule: http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=action.P07&item=pentecost07_schedule

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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:15 AM
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1. This should be a good opportunity to see who has really thought about combatting 'Poverty'...
and who is serious about taking action to combat poverty instead of just offering platitudes.

K & R !!

THanks for posting this.
Please Recommend to get this to the top for notice purposes.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:31 AM
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2. Eliminating poverty is a central theme of Edwards' campaign. I'm looking forward to hearing...
... what Clinton & Obama have to say about it!


Transformational Change For America And The World - JOHN EDWARDS for PRESIDENT 2008

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

"I'm proposing we set a national goal of eliminating poverty in the next 30 years." - JOHN EDWARDS 08

Silence is Betrayal - JOHN EDWARDS 08

Ending Poverty in America

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:49 AM
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3. k
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:33 AM
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4. knr n/t
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:57 PM
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5. ..
:kick:

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:59 PM
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6. k&r
:thumbsup:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:02 PM
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7. I Won't Be Watching. More Than Half Of Our Candidates Are Being Excluded (nt)
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:40 PM
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8. Kicking


i won't be able to watch - no cable - but I'll kick for SB :)

:kick:
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:43 PM
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9. Check the Sojourners' website later; they may have video.
http://www.sojo.net

:hi: Thanks for the :kick:!

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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 02:58 PM
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10. Kick; coming up in 3 hours.
:kick:

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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:41 PM
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11. nice how they exclude the poorer candidates
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:50 PM
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12. the others were excluded because the host didn't think they have a chance
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:27 PM
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18. Lets exclude the poor, for they have little chance of winning
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:32 PM
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19. Thanks for kicking this thread! Please also ***** VOTE OUT POVERTY *****
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:34 PM
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21. Still waiting for a reply to my post 13...
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 04:35 PM by Sapphire Blue
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:36 PM
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23. Or feel free to reply to post 17.
:hi:

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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:51 PM
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13. Perhaps you could post info about the other candidates' views on poverty?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:55 PM
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15. I wonder how excited you'll be when your candidate is excluded
because someone has decided who the 'top tier' is, and has decided only they deserve attention.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:06 PM
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17. Poverty is a central focus of Edwards' campaign. How have the other candidates addressed the issue?
If they had been invited, what would they have to say? What have they said about poverty?

~ crickets ~


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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And John Edwards?


Transformational Change For America And The World - JOHN EDWARDS for PRESIDENT 2008

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


"I'm proposing we set a national goal of eliminating poverty in the next 30 years." - JOHN EDWARDS 08

Silence is Betrayal - JOHN EDWARDS 08

Moral Leadership - JOHN EDWARDS 08

Ending Poverty in America


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:34 PM
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22. my candidate is a governor of a state with a sizable number living in poverty
He spoke of some of the successes he's had in addressing some of the problems associated with the impoverished in his state last night in the debate.

But, this forum is promoted as a forum on religion and faith . . . 'Faith Guiding Our Votes'

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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:37 PM
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24. What are his successes?
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 04:43 PM by Sapphire Blue
Edited to add: Can you please provide a link to your candidate's website wherein he addresses poverty?

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:18 PM
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27. again, the exclusions to this forum has nothing to do with the candidate's views
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 05:24 PM by bigtree
it's all about cherry-picking and media manipulation . . . but it's just fine, I suppose, if your candidate isn't the one being discriminated against.


***********************

As governor of New Mexico, Richardson has taken steps to combat poverty in the state, one of the poorest states in the nation. He eliminated the state's tax on foods and offered tax breaks to companies paying above the prevailing wage. Richardson has backed a living wage in the state and created tax credits for the creation of new jobs.
http://pewforum.org/religion08/compare.php?Issue=Poverty


from the Richardson blog: http://billrichardsonblog.com/?p=74

Gov. Bill Richardson is proposing a $17 million income-tax credit to put extra money in the pockets of lower-income families. … More than 200,000 New Mexico families could qualify for the proposed refundable income-tax credit — called the “working families tax credit.”

To qualify for these tax cuts, you have to be working. (Hence “earned income” or “working families.”) Thus, they target the exact right group of people: families that are working full-time but still having trouble making ends meet. This is far from the only tax cut the Governor is proposing (there’s clean-energy incentives, tax cuts for hospitals, and more) . . .

As you might be able to tell, the Governor has unveiled his new budget for the term. I’ll be posting more about that in the coming days and weeks, of course, since it includes (beyond tax cuts) a substantial number of the “Year of the Child” initiatives and other cool things.


Governor Pushes Multi-Million Dollar Project To Help Homeless (2005): http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/5369805/detail.html

Gov. Bill Richardson has plans to ask the New Mexico Legislature for $2 million for a new program to help the homeless get back on their feet.

The money would be used to set up personal bank accounts that people would use to find a job, home or even create a small business.

If approved, more than 3,000 homeless residents would be helped.


from Tribune interview: http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/feb/06/bill-richardson-tribune-interview/

I simply say that we've made progress in education, in per capita income . . .

The economy - we've made dramatic progress. In education, we dramatically changed education. We made full-day kindergarten a reality, started new scholarship programs, tried to narrow the achievement gap.

I feel that through my Roman Catholic beliefs, I care about social justice, I care about improving the lives of those who are destitute, those who are poor.

OK, I make no bones about it: I was influenced to pursue the minimum wage issue recently after a conversation with my local monsignor, my local priest, Monsignor (Jerome Martinez y) Alire. I was talking to him and I said, "Well, what if we increased it with an index?"

He said, "Come on, Bill. Five dollars fifteen cents for a family. You can't live on that. Just do it."

And I said, "You know, I think you're right."

And so I believe I have values, values of equity and human rights. I believe when you're talking about values, it's not just religious values. I think every American has the right to health care, has the right to a number of just basic necessities, human needs.


and, from the Richardson blog: http://billrichardsonblog.com/?p=8

2008 general: The public tends to support a living wage if you ask the question in the right way. (”Should people working full time live in poverty?”) Florida had a living wage ballot measure that absolutely sailed. It’s a gut-level no-brainer for most people. It’s also one of those uniquely Democratic issues that Republicans have zero credibility on, even if they wanted to come out for minimum wage increases, which they never do. So it’s good to have a track record on this, and the Gov is taking a leadership role. Good.

John Edwards is on a mission to become this #2 person, and the way he is going to do it is economic populism. It was the theme of his first campaign, but it came at the wrong time–everyone was Iraq-obsessed (and Bush-obsessed; not really possible with the GOP’s open primary), making the central contrast between Dean and Kerry. 2008 is a long way off, but assuming that all stays calm on the foreign policy front, people are going to be thinking less about guns, more about butter.

John Edwards has a strong association with ACORN, a living wage advocacy group. That’s the kind of thing that’s going to work for him. Gov. Richardson is now positioning himself to be able to champion his personal success at implementing a living wage in New Mexico, something no one else in the race will really be able to claim. By doing that, he puts himself into the ring with Edwards, and can leverage his executive experience to take the edge. It’s always better to have personally put a policy into place in a state you run than to simply advocate for it all over the place. “He says he’s for it, I prove I can do it.” That kind of thing.


Now, how about addressing the discrimination of the other candidates? They were excluded because, as the organizer was quoted as saying, the one's he picked have a chance of 'winning'.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:35 PM
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28. You posted a thread bashing Jim Wallis, yet you're complaining about your candidate....
... not being included in Sojourners Presidential Forum on Faith, Values, and Poverty?

:shrug:

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:35 PM
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29. I didn't post any thread bashing Jim Wallis. I don't know the man.
nice try though.

I'm complaining about the trend of deciding who the front runners are and giving them forums by themselves. But, you go on and respond to whatever you come up with in your head.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 05:27 AM
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30. you really didn't want candidate's views on poverty, did you
seems like you just wanted to make like your candidate was the only one addressing poverty. I took the time to look up and post some and you completely ignored my efforts to accuse me of bashing Wallis. What a sham.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 03:19 PM
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31. Yes, I did, and I appreciate your post, which I should have said earlier.
No, you didn't bash Wallis. I skimmed through your thread & mistakenly attributed someone else's comments to you. I'm sorry for that, and for my previous post to you.

Again, thank you for the info on Richardson; it's good to know of his efforts & accomplishments!

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 04:53 PM
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32. I think Edwards is doing the right thing with his direct appeal on poverty
Edited on Tue Jun-05-07 04:56 PM by bigtree
I'd also like to see an emphasis on the middle class, but I'm beginning to wonder if it exists anywhere other than in our overworked, underpaid minds. 'Poor' just about covers it all.

(I've been way too defensive. Taking my misery out on innocents here, perhaps. Better days . . .)
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:44 PM
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25. Poverty is a Weapon of Mass Destruction
Kucinich.us is partially down but here, from the congressional site:
http://www.kucinichforcongress.com/issues/poverty.php

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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:58 PM
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26. Thanks for the link! Does he address poverty on his campaign website?
I seem to remember DK addressing poverty in his previous presidential campaign; does he address it now?

I do wish he was considered a 'serious' candidate; he has much to offer!

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:54 PM
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14. Are they having one for the RepubliCONS...
I don't see any of their names listed in the post..
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:58 PM
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16. Yes, in the fall sometime. This one is the Dems forum.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:34 PM
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20. What might Hillary say about NAFTA and wages?
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