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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:24 AM
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My Close Encounter with John Edwards
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 10:24 AM by helderheid
By Laura Bonham
June 2, 2007, Salt Lake City, UT


It was with great surprise that I opened an email inviting me to a fundraiser for John Edwards in Salt Lake City. The surprise was not that there was a fundraiser, but that John Edwards would be there. This was an opportunity I couldn’t miss.

I’m fascinated by this candidate. There are two things about him that really appeal to my progressive heart – two BIG things. First, I tire of hearing that no one knows what the Democratic Party stands for. John Edwards is doing more for the Democratic Party on that front than any other candidate by talking about poverty. This issue defines Democrats like no other. We are the party of the workaday man, those who require a leg up, of small business owners, of a strong and stable middle class.

Secondly, he is walking the walk. Like PDA he is organizing in communities, trying to get folks volunteering, engaged in local politics, coming together to seek solutions. The man himself is organizing at the grass roots. I’m a grass roots organizer and this really speaks to me. And, it’s what needs to be done to save our Democracy from corporate fascists.

His plane arrived late, so the 90 minute event got cut to an hour. I had only a moment with him. I passed him my business card (and got the PDA war palm card to one of his staff people). I used my thirty seconds to introduce myself as PDA and asked if he had heard of us. He responded yes. I told him we had our eye on him, and were with him on the war, global warming, and poverty, to please check out our web site. He said he would. He put his arm around my shoulder, we smiled for the camera and he was on to the next person.

Edwards worked the room for about thirty minutes, then took the stage. He sizzled. He is definitely running on the left, maybe not quite so far as we would have him, but there's no doubt he's courting the progressive vote.

He started with some humor - "This is a great country, the only country where a person can rise up from being the son of a mill worker to buying $400 haircuts!" He expounded on limousine liberals and just plain old rich fat cats who do nothing to correct injustice. He segued to poverty issues, healthcare, the war - saying if the war is still raging, “on the first day of my presidency I will begin the withdrawal of American troops.” He talked about a kinder, gentler foreign policy and connected the dots very nicely between the issues, adding that “it's all related - there is no foreign and domestic policy, there is only one policy and that is humanity.”

He talked for thirty minutes and then, whoosh, he was gone.

I’ve suffered through many moderate or downright conservative speeches by visiting Democratic dignitaries to Utah. It was so refreshing to hear a powerful and engaging voice speaking from the left for a change. Apparently the audience of about 200 felt the same way.

It’s still very early in the race, but progressives would do well to pay attention to Edwards. He’s with us on a number of issues, is organizing the PDA way, and he’s got what it takes to win.

Please visit this article, http://blog.pdamerica.org/?p=951">"Who Will Progressives Back?" on our blog and post your comments about this or other 2008 presidential candidates.

http://pdamerica.org/articles/news/2007-06-02-20-55-06-news.php
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:27 AM
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1. Correction: son of a mill manager and corporate spy.
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 10:28 AM by Clark2008
Sorry - I find Edwards who "rags to riches" story lacking.

AND, I don't find him progressive.

Edited to add: I don't have a primary candidate; therefore, my opinion is mine and not because I like someone else.

:hi:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:28 AM
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2. What a surprise.
:P
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:29 AM
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3. Well, I did add that I don't have a primary candidate.
I'm Southern and 30-something female, btw, which makes my opinion of Edwards even more... um... "special." :)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:37 AM
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9. What's the story with Clark?
Is he hiring staff? Raising money? Is he going to get into this thing at some point, in your opinion?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:42 AM
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10. I really don't know.
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 10:43 AM by Clark2008
To be honest, I'm expecting a baby any second and I simply haven't kept up with everything like I should.

I'll probably be, like the rest of America, making more studied decisions after summer. Heck, I don't usually pick my candidate until fall anyway - but I'm having a lot of trouble this time out. My husband is, too. I'm a Clarkie, he's a Gore fan. We're kind of screwed.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:50 AM
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12. How dare you procreate during campaign season?!
Wait...but...it's always campaign season nowadays. Damn, this is like "Children of Men" but so much dumber... :P

Massive congratulations on the impending arrival! Wonderful news.

Be careful, tho. You're for Clark, you're husband's for Gore...so this new kid will be a Kucinich devotee, just to spice things up. :)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:29 PM
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20. Congratulations on the baby!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:52 AM
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13. Lacking how?
I am interested in what you find lacking.... I am southern woman and I find his story credible... Have I missed some news that makes it a fake story?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:15 AM
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15. There are some broken record posters here at DU.
You'll see the pattern unfold with a certain few.

Instead of offering thought-provoking opinions on the Democratic candidates, they thrash around wildly against them.

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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:32 PM
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28. mmm hmmm. wonder what THEIR agenda is?

:evilgrin:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:18 AM
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16. She hates Edwards
it's a deep and personal loathing. I marvel at her ability to tirelessy keep typing the same shit day in, day out, whenever John Edwards name comes up.

Hard to imagine hating someone so deeply. Reveals a real ugliness.....

Julie
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:45 AM
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18. Except she's absolutely correct in saying Edwards is no Progessive and as Corporate friendly
as every other single Democratic politician now running for POTUS.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:53 PM
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22. If it's so horrible
and all our candidates so Rethug-like why would ya'll even be here at DemocraticUndergound? It makes as much sense as Ralph Nader hanging out here.

:shrug:

Julie
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:05 PM
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26. Not so. see post #25
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 01:24 AM
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30. He's running further to the left than he did in 2004
Also has more detailed policy planks than anyone except Kucinich.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:29 AM
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4. Of progressives in the race only Dennis and John are at the top, John can win... nt
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:31 AM
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5. How is voting for the war, supporting the PATRIOT Act and NCLB
progressive?

Look, he's saying stuff now that he never acted upon when he could - when he was a senator. I don't give two shits about his haircuts and/or house, but I do care that he doesn't seem to stand up when it counts.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:48 AM
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11. I made a list of all the positive things you ever said about Democratic Candidates actually running
List:
1.
2.
3.
4.
and don't forget the time you mentioned ... 5.

THat about does it.

If I missed any, please let us know.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 02:24 PM
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23. Please don't forget
He not only voted FOR the IWR, but he also co-sponsored it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

MATTHEWS: OK. I just want to get one thing straight so that we know how
you would have been different in president if you had been in office
the last four years as president. Would you have gone to Afghanistan?

EDWARDS: I would.

MATTHEWS: Would you have gone to Iraq?

EDWARDS: I would have gone to Iraq.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3131295

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Iran:

"Iran must know that the world won’t back down. The recent UN resolution ordering Iran to halt the enrichment of uranium was not enough. We need meaningful political and economic sanctions. We have muddled along for far too long. To ensure that Iran never gets nuclear weapons, we need to keep ALL options on the table, Let me reiterate – ALL options must remain on the table."

Update: Over one week later, in an interview, Edwards said that he thought attacking Iran "would have very bad consequences"

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Edwards_Iran_must_know_world_wont_0123.html

Yep, that's John "finger in the wind" Edwards

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Voted FOR the 2005 bankruptcy bill



P.S. Clark2008 will someone post when your new baby girl has arrived?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:46 AM
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19. Edwards is not a freaking Progressive and it's absurd to even suggest he is. Why lie about him?
Why not just ADMIT he is a moderate?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:34 AM
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6. Thanks for posting, helderheid.

Great article.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:15 AM
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14. You bet! Laura is a friend.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:36 AM
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7. Tonight on CNN - a Presidential Forum on Faith, Values & POVERTY
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:37 AM
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8. thanks SB!
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:41 AM
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17. I recently became VERY impressed with John Edwards
Bobby Kennedy Jr was interviewing him on Ring of Fire and I found that Edwards was able to give very clear concise answers to Bobby's questions. "How do we get out of Iraq? Pull the troops out!" OK, that may have been simplistic, but that's what America likes to hear. I'm sure that he has the intelligence of Gore and Kerry, but these days you have to be able to convey your message in a simplistic manner. When he was going over his policies and what he stood for, Edwards was able to speak in a way that anyone could immediately grasp. Simply and concisely.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:10 PM
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24. And I hope more of Howard Dean's people board the Edward's ship
I'm sick of DLC clones pushing globalization and then hammering anyone challenging it from the inside.

Joe Trippi is a good start...
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:39 PM
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29. i note the same thing...and somehow, I believe he has the heart. Look at him out there DOING
and SUPPORTING the things he has spoken about. I'm going to take it as a given that at any given moment a politician will speak AFTER testing the wind -- show me someone who hasn't and has survived politically (except the commander-and-thief) Doesn't hurt one bit that John's grievously ill wife has come out to speak for him === speaks volumes to me.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:44 PM
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21. So enjoyed reading this! Thanks for posting. Your friend
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 12:45 PM by WiseButAngrySara
is beautiful and thoughtful. Edwards is my current choice (because I'm certain Kucinich can't win) unless Gore or Kerry (our former rightful President elects, IMHO) enter the fray.

:kick: and R!

edit for typo
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:02 PM
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25. Flipping channels at lunch today and caught a discussion on CNBC
where the question was Wall Street reponse to Dem candidates. The two guests
were agreed that Hillary was most friendly to Wall Street and John Edwards
was the least friendly because he wants to tax wealth (dividends and capital gains)

I thought it interesting that they, of course, didn't represent his position
correctly, which is that working people shouldn't have their incomes
taxed at greater rates than wealthy folks sitting around making money
from investments.

I've said it before and today I heard confirmation, Wall Street is most
afraid of John Edwards.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:29 PM
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27. thanks helderheid... the MSM has already determined that Edwards should be DOA at polls...
which really only heightens my own interest, the protestations of some here notwithstanding. Thanks for giving us your take on his presentation.........sizzle matters!!
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