Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

McCain Declares Americans Will Support U.S. Troops In Iraq For 50 Years

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:50 PM
Original message
McCain Declares Americans Will Support U.S. Troops In Iraq For 50 Years
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/mccain-korea-2

McCain Declares Americans Will Support U.S. Troops In Iraq For 50 Years

The White House announced this week that it “would like to see a lengthy U.S. troop presence in Iraq like the one in South Korea,” where U.S. troops have been stationed for 50 years.

In the face of overwhelming evidence that Americans want U.S. troops out of Iraq, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) baselessly declared on Friday that Americans will support a long-term military presence “as long as the number of U.S. casualties can drop to almost nothing.”

“The key to this issue is not American presence, but American casualties,” he told a standing-room-only crowd of about 250 employees at Nationwide Insurance’s offices.

“We have had troops in South Korea for 60 years and nobody minds,” McCain said. “If you stay a long, long time, but have the Iraqis doing the fighting, and your people are back in the bases and away from the firing line, I think Americans would be satisfied.”

All the evidence suggests directly the opposite, that Americans want U.S. troops out of Iraq. Moreover, an ABC News poll this year found that 78 percent of Iraqis “oppose the presence of U.S. forces on their soil“; just one percent of Iraqis “want the US military presence to go on without end.”

- snip -.”

Of course, even if McCain admits that Americans don’t want to be in Iraq forever, it wouldn’t matter. He has previously proclaimed that he can ignore American public opinion polling on Iraq because he knows “what’s best for the security of this nation.“

MORE

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:56 PM
Response to Original message
1. More reTHUGlican war mongering rhetoric, these people must have war
...so they can have power and control. The repukes know of no other way to govern :wtf:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Yes they do
they also know how to build up for a war that will never happen so they can have power and control.

A subtle difference, but they have now tried both methods multiple times, now. Either way, the American people lose.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
3. Wrong, Mr. McCain. I do mind very much our presence in Korea and Iraq. I want the great American
Empire to start folding its tents.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:02 PM
Response to Original message
4. “We have had troops in South Korea for 60 years and nobody minds,”
http://www.usinkorea.org/1st/TRAGEDY/index.html

Tragic Death of Two Middle School Girls
unleashes orgy of hate USFK / US

On June 13th 2002, during the period of the World Cup fever in Korea, an USFK armored vehicle accidentally ran over two middle school girls on a road near Paju north of Seoul near the DMZ.

The two girls were going to a birthday party. They were walking along the edge of a two lane highway with a grassy bank rising just off to their right. The tank was the third or fourth in line in the column - meaning two tanks had already passed the girls. The driver of the tank that killed them did not hear the spotter warning him about the girls due to a faulty headset. The two girls were walking with their heads down and fingers in their ears because of the noise the column of tanks was making. It was a tragic event.

Middle school students hate promotion rally (Image to the left is of a anti-US rally for high school and middle school students. It has become very common for the anti-US civic groups to actively promote hatred among kids including elementary school children and the production of anti-American lyrics set to popular kids tunes. Many of the videos from the teen rallies also show the leftist labor party presidential candidate giving speeches at them.)

Korean society used the accident for half a year of intense hate leading to a handful of injuries to US soldiers in violent protests and unprovoked attacks in the street. Koreans wanted murder charges brought against the two soldiers in the vehicle, and they did pressure the US military to court martial them for manslaughter. This only added fuel to the fire, and the acquittal caused an explosion of hate that even caught the attention of the American media.










Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:04 PM
Response to Original message
5. MF McCain should realize the US will have long been bankrupt with we the people hauling their $s
to the store in a wheelbarrow just to buy a loaf of bread, especially in view of the $trillion offloaded to poltroons and the like via no-bid/unlimited cost-overrun contracts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:05 PM
Response to Original message
6. it's amazing how these guys think they can read our minds isn't it?
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 01:06 PM by alyce douglas
what is he drinking?

why can't they get through their thick skulls this invasion was illegal and we had no business bombing the hell out of an innocent country who did nothing to us!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:05 PM
Response to Original message
7. My GOD, McCain really has lost his mind!
I never quite understood why he was sticking so close to Shrub during this campaign, but if he really BELIEVES most people don't care that we still have troops in SK, he's not only too old, and too much of a Bushie, he's f-ing NUTS!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Each statement is more insane than the last...each time I think he couldn't be more crazy
then BLAMMO the fucker sinks another 1000 feet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:06 PM
Response to Original message
8. What a fuckin retard.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:06 PM
Response to Original message
9. Korea
We have had troops all over the world you nifnod, but there is a 'Civil War' in Iraq
Different scenario......
Your Grandfather just turned over in his grave I think..................:mad:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:13 PM
Response to Original message
11. What planet is he speaking from, because it sure isn't this one. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:16 PM
Response to Original message
12. I hope all the GOP candidates decide to run with this.
The voters will just eat this up. Why would anyone not want to vote for this?
:woohoo: :patriot: 50 Years in Iraq!!! :patriot: :woohoo:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:17 PM
Response to Original message
13. I was unaware that Korea had suicide bombers & was having
a sectarian civil war.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:23 PM
Response to Original message
14. his filament has burned out
just saying...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:40 PM
Response to Original message
15. I think that McCain should make his support for our war and occupation of Iraq as a focal point
of his campaign. Clearly he believes there should be war and occupation without end, so he should allow Americans to have an up or down vote on his ideology.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:41 PM
Response to Original message
16. He could be right.
We could keep electing representatives who get borg'd before they take office and continue voting strict War Party Line for decades. Why not?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:42 PM
Response to Original message
17. oooooh, the 4th reich
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:55 PM
Response to Original message
18. uhc to mccain: I'll support troops in Iraq till the end of 2007
After that sparky, you're on your own.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dave_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 02:12 PM
Response to Original message
19. Dude, if it keeps the US pinned down like this ...
... ObL and everybody else looking for an unopposed headline hit at America's expense will support them being there for 50 years too. I guess it's a kinda strategy. It's just the wrong side's.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:35 PM
Response to Original message
20. McCain has his lucid moments; this is NOT one of them. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:56 PM
Response to Original message
21. He makes a few big assumptions....
...but as usual he is talking out of his ass.

Just because South Korea is off our radar doesn't mean that troop presence still isn't of concern. He assumes that out-of-sight-out-of-mind implies acceptance. Not necessarily.

How realistic is it that troop casualty levels will fall to "almost nothing"? Again -- Iraq is a hell of a lot different than the 37th parallel. Casualty rates will only rise the longer we are there.

Personally, I find the thought of troops being in Iraq another 50 years to be appalling and repugnant. Of course for the most part Americans will support their troops. But that does not mean that they will support why the troops are there. That's the reality that McCain is choosing to conveniently ignore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 03:34 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC