so we're fighting them over there so we don't have to here....

[Betty]

if that's the case, what does the JFK bombing plot tell us? For starters, that they are ALREADY here, that our being in Iraq doesn't prevent people from coming here and planning all kinds of mayhem.

And secondly, that the way to "fight" the threat is through good, solid police/intelligence work. Not by going and destroying countries that had nothing to do with 9-11. Not by turning those countries into new havens for the terrorists. And not by pissing off millions of people that for the most part probably would have been moderates until we came over and destroyed their lives or the lives of people that they identify with.

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. I don't trust my government

So I don't believe this terror story.

[Silverbug]

6. there is a HUGE flaw on that logic

as Ron Paul pointed out, they are coming here BECAUSE we are over there!

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Oh so sonce Ron Paul says it, it's true?

Is this the Ron Paul forum now??

[Wickerman]

2. nice point

your post is worth an editorial or two to the local paper.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. that's the problem Bush has created more terrorists over there than there were before

and now he's creating more here.

[BOSSHOG]

4. A case easily made

that the homegrown terrorists don't oppose the USA, they oppose george bush and his kind.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. I doubt that this is a solid example.

Apparently they wanted the informer to "go first".

[gratuitous]

8. I'm not much of one for duplicitous arguments

But this one strikes me as pretty good. If we're to believe the right wing whackos, we're burning through our military and our Treasury in Iraq to keep the terrorists occupied so they don't come to the United States. A nonsense argument, but repeated over and over by silly people who are accorded gravitas for some reason.

And now, we're being told that these guys and their hare-brained scheme are irrefutable proof - proof! I tell you! - that the terrorists are poised to cause unimaginable death and destruction. Equally nonsensical, but many of the same silly people are donning appropriately frowny faces in an attempt to frighten the gullible.

So which is it? The war in Iraq is ineffectual at stopping terrorists from operating inside the U.S., and should be ended immediately, or this terrorist plot is so much hot air, unworthy of even a second's notice by reasonable people? It can't be both.