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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:33 PM
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Bill O'Reilly going off the deep end, claims TB guy was acting on "secular, progressive" values....
:crazy: This man's assholery knows no bounds


from Media Matters:


O'Reilly: Man with TB acted on "secular-progressive" values, "putting his own welfare above everything and everybody else"

On the June 1 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, discussing the recent news that attorney Andrew Speaker traveled by airline while infected with an antibiotic-resistant strain of tuberculosis, host Bill O'Reilly asserted that the "the story comes down to ... philosophy of life." O'Reilly explained: "Traditional-values people put others on a par with themselves. ... Secular progressives put themselves above all others. That philosophy says, 'Me first, then I'll worry about you.' As a nation, the USA has been successful embracing the traditional point of view. But today, that's being challenged. And this TB case is a great example." He added: "Did Speaker put his own welfare above everything and everybody else? You bet he did."

Later in the broadcast, discussing with Focus on the Family chairman James C. Dobson recent comments about drugs and sex made by panelists at the Conference on World Affairs to a group of students at Boulder High School in Boulder, Colorado, O'Reilly again generalized about the beliefs of so-called "secular progressives." He said: "Secular progressives are going to basically tell children to use drugs, to have indiscriminate sex, do what you want when you're 14 years old, never mind what your parents think."

...(snip)...

O'REILLY: OK, so Speaker says he wasn't fully aware of his condition. His wife says he thought he was going to die. Add it up.

So what the story comes down to is philosophy of life. Traditional-values people put others on a par with themselves. That's a Judeo-Christian tenet. Love your neighbor as yourself.

Secular progressives put themselves above all others. That philosophy says, "Me first, then I'll worry about you." As a nation, the USA has been successful embracing the traditional point of view. But today, that's being challenged. And this TB case is a great example.

Are Andrew Speaker and his wife bad people? Probably not. Did Speaker put his own welfare above everything and everybody else? You bet he did.

...(snip)...

O'REILLY: All right, so your -- your organization, it would be, you know, the corruption of minors and the encouragement of minors to break the law. It's going to be a tough stretch. I don't know if the attorney general of Colorado is going to want to go in on that.

Is there anything else, though, that you can do, your organization can do, to mobilize people, because I think this is so bad and so over the top, and this is sending a message to the whole country that, look, it's out in the open now. Secular progressives are going to basically tell children to use drugs, to have indiscriminate sex, do what you want when you're 14 years old, never mind what your parents think. And I think this is -- becomes a culture war battle front and center for the entire country. So what can your organization do? .......

http://mediamatters.org/items/200706040002?f=h_latest

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:38 PM
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Tune it out. I can't really say O'Reilly's wrong about this so tune it out.
I have no idea if the guy's religious or not or WHAT, but on the chance that he's not, let's not be seen defending the jerk, k? By ANY moral or ethical standard what he did was selfish.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:40 PM
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2. It's not about defending the man with TB....
It's about O'Reilly making the completely ridiculous assertion that progressive secularism is the cause of the selfishness.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:38 PM
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1. Whereas the U.S. in invading Iraq
is doing God's will. O'Reilly doesn't understand basic psychology here. Sadly, I doubt his listeners do either.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:41 PM
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3. It is sad, watching dementia set in.
I'd be curious about how he developed his definition of 'secular progressive'. Perhaps he is contrasting with 'religious conservative', and to hell with logic.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:42 PM
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4. funny, I thought secular progessive values
meant the greatest good for the greatest number of people---sharing resources so that all may have some, and not that some may have all. Am I off base?
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:18 PM
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14. Pretty close to my interpretation
If society isn't moving forward together, if we aren't improving our lives together, it's not going to be a very rich life for any of us.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:44 PM
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5. Secular, "worldly or temporal" and progressive, "characterized by progress" YIKES!
"Heaven" forbid that we should have any progress in the world.

That could interfere with the Assault on Reason.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:52 PM
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6. BillO: Worst person in the world
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:55 PM
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7. He's got that ass backwards.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:01 PM
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8. Pathetic, Billo -- even for you.
If you are going to go off on a the-other-side-is-x screed please try to make it plausible. Now you are just being lame.
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Mark 2000 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:04 PM
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9. Is this man even relevant any more?
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 09:04 PM by Mark 2000
Who cares what he says? Him and Geroldo have circle jerks on crystal meth about how evil John Stewart is. They don't actually matter until we all start paying attention, negative or positive.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:04 PM
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17. Sadly, the last ratings I saw had two million people watching him nightly
His ratings are down, but still 2 million people watch Bill-O and his bullying and blustering. Even though KO's ratings are up by 70+%, he still gets less than HALF what Bill-O gets at the same time.

To quote the Stephanie Miller Show: "I think I'm gonna barf." :puke:
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:05 PM
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10. "Traditional-values people put others on a par with themselves"
"Traditional-values people put others on a par with themselves. ... Secular progressives put themselves above all others"

Yes, "traditional-values" people always put others on a par with themselves. Just look at bush's attitude toward Katrina victims or falwell's attitude toward gays.

Secular progressives are rife with examples of putting themselves above all others. Carter's attitude toward the homeless is just one example.

Oh, wait...

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:08 PM
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11. O Blowy doesn't know what secular-progressive means, how surprising.
Idiots in charge on Foxnews.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:11 PM
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12. Wait a minute...
That philosophy says, 'Me first, then I'll worry about you.'


That's not "secular-prgressive" values, that's REPUBLICAN values!

Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:27 PM
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15. I understand republican values a little differently
"I got my pie; to hell with you" ;)
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:13 PM
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13. Bill O has become "The Great Santini"
in that he is always looking for a fight, in his case, the evil secular progressives, LOL......

Bill Orally has gone totally Joe McCarthy, & is slowly & surely losing what's left of his fucking mind.......The guy screams for attention & truly is a sad, pathetic, & despicable character.....

Bill should stick to subjects he knows best about, namely settling sexual harassment lawsuits....
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:32 PM
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16. It's like KO said
"Let he who is without sin cast the first loofah"
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:05 PM
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18. Right wingers love to project their own traits onto others. n/t
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:48 PM
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20. yeah, they do that so often its like a reflex
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:25 PM
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19. So, I guess a class action lawsuit is out of the question?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:48 PM
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21. sounds more like the action of a Republican Christian Conservative
I've never seen one of them "love thy neighbor like thyself" (except for when BillO sexually harassed his producer) or "put the needs of others first"
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