About black-water

[undergroundpanther]

I was thinking...
I was really hurt by a fun-die years ago. He was obsessed with Apocalypse.
He had ,filmstrips that are burned into my nightmares of gruesome scenes..I lived through what can be described as"christian ritual abuse".And for years therapists DENIED me when I told them the awful things a christian did to me. And they pretended the things he said to me and did were insignificant.Why because back then it was impossible to most people that a christian could be a monster too. Same blindness is evident when christian people look at their god and the bible .

For years I assumed the shit he said was cryptic and a product of his evil fantasies in his head., but now I must admit he was not just torturing me he was also giving me information sometimes too.How he knew I cannot say.Coincidence? I don't know.

I was around 5 when he described to me the coming mercenaries for god. He said they'd be all in black,have armor like dragons and electric guns.(Dragon scale and Tazers?)
He said the words black-water is rising to terrorize me. He said the abuse he was doing was to"save" my soul. He knew he could use those words that way. He was saying this shit to me in the 70's mind you.Before a black-water mercenary group existed.Was it coincidence? I do not know.
http://www.blackwaterusa.com/btw2007/archive/021907btw.htm

Looking back,I had no clue what he meant by black-water rising. So I looked in the bible. This is the passage I think the Black-water Mercenaries got their name from.

Moreover, the idea of one thing flows into the idea of another and colors it, as when a little black is dropped into water and the whole volume of water is darkened.
http://www.biblemeanings.info/Bible/Genesis/ch9,v5-m.htm

The Gnostic's put a different spin on this black water idea....
Abathur goes into that world ... He sees his face in the black water, and his likeness and son is fanned unto him out of the black water.
n a text closer to the atmosphere of Christian Gnosticism - the recently published Hypostasis of the Archons - the figure is employed in a way not unlike that used in the Poimandres, as an instrument of self-delusion by which the Higher is lured down into the Lower:

The Incorruptibility looked down upon the regions of the water. Its image revealed itself in the water and the powers of darkness fell in love with it. The archons took counsel and said, "Come, let us make a man from dust ..." they formed after their own body and after the image of God which had revealed itself in the water ... 'We will equal the image in our formation, so that it shall see this likeness of itself, and we may trap it in our formation. Self-reflection, the fashioning of an alter-ego, plays an important part in the Gnostic myths of creation. In each case, self-love is portrayed as a gateway to man's fall. But the Poimandres, the Hypostasis of the Archons, and indeed all the major Gnostic works, are concerned with the fall only as a necessary prelude to their doctrine of man's redemption.

So..Blackwater mercenaries twist the words of the Gnostic's to create an excuse as to why they believe murdering and terrorizing people for the sake of mankind's redemption is somehow morally and ethically OK..The ends are good so it justifies horrific means..And that all good ending .makes all the trauma all ok. Sounds fascist and utopian to me.


The bible is full of sadism and killing approved by god to salvage mankind's souls..Job, the flood of Noah, is the torment first to save later mindset. Sodom and Gomorrah,Jesus slow death(if he existed at all) Revelations, all this blood shed is for our redemption.

That is NOT ok,And this is why I am not Christian.

The christian God has a visible nice face and the hidden face of a monster that excuses trauma.The Jews Admit this hidden face of god the abuser causing us trauma for our own good.

http://www.jrf.org/rt/twofaces.html

I don't agree trauma makes people better. I just see in Black-water the same old warped mentality as the Christian asshole who terrorized and raped me as a kid had.I see the New Agers explaining why god needs evil to balance and contrast the light. There is no excuse for a god of love to be causing trauma, that is the definition of an abusive relationship..If the monotheists god deliberately create or allow trauma than they are no god to me.

One thing that asshole Cristian pedophile did was show me that any"sacred" scriptures also has two faces. One face is the milk the gentle side,of a jealous god the love and god heals all stuff ,the other is the meat the sword from the mouth jesus,blood guts and horror all done for mankind's own good..The meat according to this asshole was included hints about a sick plan that might have already been circulating among the fascist wing of the southern baptists of acting out Armageddon and American theocracy.

Some of these psychopaths are trapped in a fantasy by their addiction to it,and they go denying it frothing about it shows me they live inside a destructive utopian fantasy that lives in their heads they don't see darkness as in they do not see the Black water has swallowed them as a problem..Addicted to fantasy ,so bored and unhappy ,so scared of death and scared of being free,They desire instead of self actualizing, they desire to act out these deadly events that have fascinated them from the teachings forced into their heads by their parents,and they will create it on the world's stage...


Sometimes a person when they replay a fantasy in their heads it no longer gives the shock and rush so they act it out first in small ways than in bigger ways.If they are a charismatic psychopath they can mess with the unconscious collective mind of nations and play war and get off on that carnage. But what happens if smaller scale genocide,wars no longer thrill the vile imaginations of those who have every other want their twisted heart may desire? They seek the ultimate fantasy and after the in the head scenes fail to work they seek to act it out.The bible provides the script for these psychopaths and we are all the actors in this mass fantasy these criminals in churches and politics want to act out.Why else would they coronate moon but to act out crowning of the antiChrist?.

These people Like Prince,Dobson etc. They do not live in the same reality as most of us do.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/20/jeb-bush-reveals/

WE are not real people to them.They see us as robots,or gnats,bit part players in their grand encounter with god.. Their psychopath minds are so bored with life and hoarding from others,watching war from afar and controlling nations and taking it's fruits unlimited by anyone else.They are like how Marquis De Sade became when he became desensitized to pleasure, he turned to unpleasant stimuli to get off..They cannot feel pleasure and their sensitivity to pain is nearly exhausted they want novelty ,so they desire death.MASSIVE death .

They want the end, and they want to drag the entire world to death with them,something no one has done yet.Because for the leader psychopath controlling every life on the planet is not enough to make them stop their desired for slow suicide,a suicide they cannot feel but are driven to cause .A psychopath with no limits inside himself and no one limiting him on the outside to restrain him,always pushes social limits with sensation seeking until someone or the state kills him or he kills all he can get away with and dies in the process.Because a human brain that is under stimulated will make itself crazy to feel sensations and randomness.

Moreover, the clinical literature demonstrates that
individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder are especially intolerant of restricted environmental
stimulation. For example, Quay (1965) characterized the psychopathic individual as pathologically"stimulation seeking ... impulsive ... (and) unable to tolerate routine and boredom."
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:Yhm87kCsl7oJ:www.prisoncommission.org/statements/grassian_stuart_long.pdf+sensory+deprivation+effects+on+psychopaths+brain&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us


It seems that the brain needs a certain quantity, quality, or type of stimuli to help regulate, direct and prioritize thought processes and other brain functions properly. It could mean that without certain (or enough) stimuli, the level of random activity in the nervous system increases—such as brain activity that causes hallucinations.

When inputs are all coming from the same place, parts of the unconscious experience the same inputted information differently because they are all interpreting the information with different randomness. The randomness helps us make connections between sets of inputted information and our own prior knowledge to ultimately create a story that explains our situation and surroundings. This story informs the "I"-function, which allows us to experience and understand the situation/surroundings personally.

Perhaps the brain attempts to compensate for stimuli it is missing by creating stimuli of its own, that is, by increasing random activity. Either way, when the brain is not receiving much input from the environment, there is little information based in reality that the unconscious can focus on or try to interpret. The story reported back to the "I"-function is more likely informed by more random connections than real facts about reality because reality is not offering enough stimuli to make a coherent story.
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro05/web3/c2frintner.html

Psychopaths seek to find thrills and create strife because their emotions are disconnected from their empathy which is dead already so they feel less stimuli in stimulus.A psychopath growing up isolated and entitled in a rich neighborhood that offers them no randomness or challenge it's easy to see how Armageddon becomes the fantasy du Jour of insulated bored rich tyrant boys that grow up to rule nations and see war as a game..

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1. To the locals around here, Blackwater is the name of the area. We have

an area where the water is actually black due to the earthy quality of the water. Although there is no map with Blackwater on it, in Pungo Va and parts of NC there is a place known as Blackwater.

[undergroundpanther]

2. Earthy water?

Well there is a mythos about that too.

[rainy]

3. Sounds like you had a very bad experience. I don't doubt that at the

center of the organization there may be more than meets the eye. Like most corrupt organizations the peons know nothing. I know a man who went to work for Blackwater purely for the money. He is a real asshole, gun-ho "go kill me some arabs" type.

[undergroundpanther]

7. People are

sorted by thier character and what they tolerate by these orgs.
If they can use you they will, for there are many branches with different levels and tasks.I was given a personality test in the church bible study along with a bunch of others.No doubt they used it to control me and to funnel me to where my skills might be useful to them.
I was in Assemblies of God as an adult. Startling when I think about it how close I was to some of the most vile people on the planet.I met CIA guy at a prayer meeting one night wasen't coy about it. Jay Sekulo was on the board of this prayer group he just wasen't listed so were some excecutives from CBN, This group was run by a 400 pound buffoon asshole with 11 kids and a submitted wife that looked half dead... Here my Ex writes about our experinces with this group.

http://againstarchons.blogspot.com/2006/05/4-insidious-influences-hidden.html
The leader, Denny Nissley, was a traveling street evangelist and now travels with his 18 wheeler to various churches to sponsor evangelism fundraisers, hand out tracts, distribute clothes or some food in emergencies, along with their religious message. He prefers to hook up new converts to some church he knows of who will guide or disciple the convert in what he considers the correct manner.

Nissley is good friends with a former member of the secret service who served President Herbert Walker Bush, has appeared on Pat Robertson's 700 club and met with Ashcroft and other members of congress, has Jay Seculow (of ACLJ, founded under Robertson) on his board of directors for his evangelism ministry, and was friends with the founders of National Association of Marriage Enhancement, who happened to serve in Bartlet's Phoenix Assembly, and Paul Yongi Cho. Pat Robertson is associated with the very secretive and well connected right wing Council for National Council, along with various religious extremists.

Denny's right hand man and another close associate each said independently that they had undefined racist backgrounds, but it is unclear how serious their connections were, but now they see themselves as part of the Christ-centric rather than race-centric lifestyle. However, the subject calls to mind the known use of cell group organization among organized racists in The Order, Priesthood of Phineas, and Christian Identity groups, and among terrorist groups around the world like Al Qaeda, and the way this parallels cell church and discipling networks.

How deep does it GO?I got pissed off and dropped some names to a chick called VIC she investigated and found THIS.
http://www.seekgod.ca/toast2.htm

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4. Are you familiar with the Dominionists?

I always wondered where that movie "Eyes wide Shut" came from and was about. I see maybe a connection to the people you talk about and that movie.
I hope you have arrived at a good place in your life that you can function without pain from your past haunting you. What a creep you had to deal with!!!!!!!

[siligut]

5. GD weirdo fundies!

Rainy, rent The Ninth Gate starring Johnny Depp. It offers more of Eyes Wide Shut on a different level. The Dominionists can be seen in both films. Undergroundpanther, you are not alone with what you have experienced, you can find groups on the web and it isn’t in an MD’s best interest to try to help but there are some out there who do.

[rainy]

6. Thanks, I just put it on my next netflix movie list. Thanks. nt