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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:51 PM
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Shirley Phelps-Roper arrested for allowing son to step on flag
Funeral protester Shirley Phelps-Roper arrested for allowing son to
step on flag

By ERIC OLSON
Associated Press Writer

OMAHA, Neb. -- A member of the Kansas church that protests at soldier
funerals across the nation was arrested Tuesday after her son stomped
on a United States flag during a protest in Bellevue.

Shirley Phelps-Roper, 49, of Topeka, Kan., was arrested on suspicion
of contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Phelps-Roper acknowledged that she allowed her 10-year-old son,
Jonah, to stand on the flag -- an action that she says is protected
by the U.S. Constitution.

Bellevue Police Capt. Herb Evers said a 1977 Nebraska statute that
makes it unlawful for a person to trample on a flag.

"The officer present observed what happened, and instead of putting a
10-year-old in jail, we put her in jail," Evers said.

Phelps-Roper is a member of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka.
She is a daughter of the church's founder, the Rev. Fred Phelps.

Phelps-Roper said church members have protested at more than 280
military funerals in 43 states since June 15, 2005, and that Tuesday
marked her church's first arrest at a funeral.

Nebraska and 37 other states have adopted laws restricting how close
protesters can get to funerals. Those laws were at least partly
inspired by the Westboro church's protests.

The Bellevue funeral was for Nebraska Army National Guard Spc.
William "Bill" Bailey, who was killed May 25 when an explosive device
struck his vehicle in Iraq.

Evers said the Westboro Baptist church applied for a permit to
protest from 9:15 a.m. until 10 a.m. Tuesday. There were eight
protesters, he said.

Phelps-Roper was arrested at about 9:55 a.m. when an officer observed
the boy stomping on the flag, Evers said. She was booked and released
after posting $150 bail.

The Sarpy County Attorney's Office will decide what, if any, charges
Phelps-Roper will face.

Westboro Baptist Church's message during funeral protest is that the
soldier deaths are God's punishment for the nation harboring
homosexuals. Phelps-Roper said the protests are a form of religious
expression protected by the Constitution.

Phelps-Roper said her son intentionally stood on the flag.

"Every symbol of the rebellious, doomed America must necessarily be
disrespected," she said. "We did our duty today to our God and fellow
man. Our job is to cause this nation to know her abomination. The
thing they worship, the flag, is worthless. It's a piece of cloth."

She said the Nebraska statute forbidding flag mutilation should have
been repealed years ago, and she challenged the Sarpy County
Attorney's Office to prosecute her.

"Those rogue cops cooked up this scheme," she said, "and now the
question is whether the person who sits in the office of the
prosecutor has character. If they pursue this, our next stop will be
federal court in Nebraska to challenge that unconstitutional statute."

In 1990, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a federal law that
outlawed burning the American flag.

"Punishing desecration of the flag dilutes the very freedom that
makes this emblem so revered," the court said.

Nebraska's flag law says "A person commits the offense of mutilating
a flag if such person intentionally casts contempt or ridicule upon a
flag by mutilating, defacing, defiling, burning, or trampling upon
such flag."

Violating the law is a misdemeanor punishable by three months in jail
and a $500 fine.


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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:52 PM
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1. .
:popcorn:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:56 PM
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2. Well, alrighty then.


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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:19 PM
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11. okee dokey



dp
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:58 PM
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3. Watch Phelps call the ACLU on this
they would help him, of course--but could he abide with them?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:03 PM
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4. Wow. It seems they'll defend their right to do anything in the name of protest.
Hateful SOBs.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:08 PM
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5. May sound odd for a lesbian but I support the Phelps in this...n/t
Edited on Tue Jun-05-07 08:40 PM by Madspirit
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:11 PM
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6. It pains me to say this
but it is freedom of speech.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:13 PM
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7. no one should ever be arrested for protesting (whether they bring kids or not)
Phelps-Rogers needs to challenge how this "statute" was applied.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:14 PM
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8. She happens to be right on this....
broken clocks, and all.

Standing on a flag should not be a criminal offense.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:17 PM
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10. Never thought I'd be on the side of these people
but in this small area I'd have to defend them.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:17 PM
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9. I don't want to be in a position where I agree with one of those idiots
but stepping on a flag? With all they do, all they could come up with is that they stepped on a flag? How can stepping on a flag be illegal. I've seen people with pictures of flags on their doormats. I imagine that's supposed to be patriotic.

I agree with this quote from the article:
"Punishing desecration of the flag dilutes the very freedom that
makes this emblem so revered," the court said.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:40 PM
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12. well
a depiction of a flag is not a flag


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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:42 PM
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13. i hate that woman - but she's entitled to constitutional protection
Let her out.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:43 PM
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14. I'm REALLY Scared Now
We've all basically agreed so far. :rofl:
Lee
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:58 PM
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15. lol
lot of giggles in that story


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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:18 PM
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16. First amendment case, interesting to see how far this one goes.
Ironic as hell, shocking as all get out.

Truly scary thought is that if this hits the Supremes and they find for the state, that means that the Supreme Court is officially to the right of the Phelps clan:scared:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:25 PM
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17. It couldn't get any more ironic
I will probably regret saying that.

It's going to be an interesting case, especially given the family are mostly all lawyers.

But for fucks sake why oh why do they have to use their kids like fucking game pieces?!
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:38 PM
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20. Because they can, and the kids are in training. n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:29 PM
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18. She's a vile creature, but she is right
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 10:57 PM
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22. She should have had her son 'water-board' the flag! That would have passed GOP muster! n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:31 PM
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19. She shouldn't have been arrested.
Regardless of who she is and what she stands for, she has the right and so does her son.
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pookieblue Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:40 PM
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21. I hate the Phelps and all that they do....
I might hate what she and her family has to say....however, she did not deserve to be arrested for that. There is still such a thing as free speech in this country (I hope).
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 11:04 PM
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23. Bush steps on the flag all the time.


All the time.



And in the worst of ways.



C'mon Congress! Impeach the warmonger, already.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 07:31 AM
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24. Maybe this will keep them busy for a while.
This should not have happened (:puke: for saying that) but after all the vile things they have done this is what they get arrested for? Odd.

At least they will be busy suing some other place than my city for a while.

I hate these dumb flag laws and I hate that this will give them a lot of press and that many will rightfully be on their side.
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