Of All The Things In The Debate Tonight, One Still Glares Out At Me More Than Anything Else:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

When we have gotten to the point that part of our process of electing a leader for our country entails debating whether evolution did or didn't take place; and it is the LATTER response that is put forth to be looked upon fondly; then I'm sorry to say that things have seriously gotten all sorts of fucked up.

[TransitJohn]

1. It's just a goddamn horrorshow in the GOP

what with all the insane things to choose from.....but I'll settle on the racism. Without getting beyond that fucked up shit, they'll never represent the people.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. "All sorts of fucked up" is about right.

What's fucked up is that the topic of evolution appears at all in a debate among Presidential candidates, and what's even more fucked up is that some of them don't accept established scientific fact. Snopes is spinning in his grave.

All sorts of fucked up, indeed.

[bananarepublican]

21. To borrow a phrase from Apocalypse Now... the last 7 yrs has been a 'cluster-fuck'! n/t

[Rex]

3. God bless America.

In God we Trust. Tell the Truth, the whole truth so help me God. God God God!

Evolution? Sounds way too easy, let us stick with something we can't prove - ever!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

7. I disagree - they don't understand evolution...

hence they choose the easy explanation - "God must have done it"

[Rex]

23. Seriously, it ain't that hard to understand.

I think they stick with God, because they believe their base believes in God. If evolution was accepted like God is in America, they would be siding with evolution in a heartbeat.

Whatever it takes to get elected.

[Avalux]

4. Reminds me of a scene from Alice in Wonderland.

"It would be so nice if something made sense for a change."

Wouldn't it??
:crazy:

[Major Hogwash]

5. Where have you been, man? They're praying for the end of the world to come!!

Those people are seriously nuts, man.

They are more nuts than you have ever seen in a Planter's case of nuts.

They hope, they pray, that Bush brings Armageddon to pass so that the world ends soon, so they can all go to heaven and live for eternity.

They have become death worshippers, praying for an early death, in the name of a Christian god.

It is sick and beyond reason, but there it is, and if rational people do not grab power from these fanatics soon, they will try to make it come to pass for as many as possible in the next 20 months.

[thunder rising]

9. Interesting note: Falwell didn't make it to the rapture

He must have been secretly weak.

[thunder rising]

6. I agree, but what if the media is turning it into a circus

and those morons are running with the bait. Let's face it, the media only ask the question, those morons are answering with all the zeal they can muster. And, if for some reason, one of those folks gets elected we WILL know that it's either time to leave or "PrAAAAZE GAAAWWD" and hide from the plant people.

[tularetom]

8. Wonder how the rest of the world sees us.

as we approach third world levels of religious ignorance and superstiton.

All we need now is an active volcano and a few virgins to toss in it and the trannsformation will be complete.

We will have devolved back to the stone age.

[partylessinOhio]

10. Regression in America. Yes, that is where we are.

Do you pray?

Do you take Communion?

Do you believe in evolution?

I can't go on, it makes me sick.

We are doomed. America has been dumbed down to the limit.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

11. Wolf -"and after the break, the contenders will answer audiance questions

in tongues and demonstrate their snake handling skills".

But I kid the Republicans! However, if I want spiritual leadership, I won't be seeking it from one of these guys - or my President period. Guess what - that's NOT HIS ROLE!!!! It's not supposed to be his role, for Heaven's sake. Scary.

I think I'm due for "A Man For All Seasons" from Netflix.

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[mrcheerful]

14. Remember those National Graphic articles on african tribes and their superstitions?

Except for the topless native women, we are now at about the same level as those tribes were, in the 50's. In fact we are below them in that our taboo's are far more regressive as the only big taboo was being around women on their menses. In the US the biggest taboo is sex with anyone regaurdless of time of the month. The right wing nut's goal is a sexless america, where men are men and farm animals are afraid.

[Ediacara]

13. There never was a Golden Age of American Scientificalism

Despite the fact that most of our presidents have been highly educated I'd bet perhaps less than ten accepted evolution as fact.

I think we're seeing something in the current GOP field that's not out of the ordinary, and I suspect quite a few of them lied when they didn't raise their hand a few weeks ago (I'm looking at you mittens).

And quite honestly, rejecting evolution will win them points with their base, and possibly with the electorate as a whole (although the three evolution rejecters have no real chance in hell in the primary or the general).

[karlrschneider]

15. I wish somebody would ask them "Raise your hand if you believe in the geocentric theory"

It'd be interesting...

[Cleita]

16. Yes, it seems the idiots are running the village. n/t

[On the Road]

17. Whaever They Say in the Debates

is going to haunt them in the general. Independents and cross-overs are not generally sympathetic to people in scientific denial.

[leftofthedial]

18. every goddamned repuke is a liar

straight up, no pretense even. they just lie. Their whole platform is a tapestry of lies. Their ever-shakier coalition has given them a message that is stretched beyond the limits of credulity trying to pander ot the various extremist fundie religiously insane, fundie economic and fundie war constituencies.

[Hardrada]

19. One wonders how they would deal with, say, general relativity

or quantum mechanics!

[TahitiNut]

20. Einstein was obviously wrong. After all ...

... General Relativity theory postulates that time itself is a phenomenon inextricably part of the Universe. Thus, there can have been no "days" by which the time taken for the Creation of the Universe could have been measured. It seems laughable in the extreme to presume that God was subject to time.

[SammyWinstonJack]

22. FUCKED UPED? YES WE ARE!