Brzezinski warns Bush might use an al-Qaeda attack as a justification in attacking Iran

[sabra]

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IF07Ak04.html

Al-Qaeda spark for an Iran-US fire

WASHINGTON - After revelations of a US administration policy to hold Iran responsible for any al-Qaeda attack on the United States that could be portrayed as planned on Iranian soil, former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski warned last week that Washington might use such an incident as a pretext to bomb Iran.

Brzezinski, the national security adviser to president Jimmy Carter from 1977 through 1980 and the most senior Democratic Party figure on national-security policy, told a private meeting sponsored by the non-partisan Committee for the Republic in Washington on May 30 that an al-Qaeda terrorist attack in the US intended to provoke war between the United States and Iran was a possibility that must be taken seriously, and that the administration of President George W Bush might accuse Iran of responsibility for such an attack and use it to justify carrying out an attack on Iran.

Brzezinski suggested that new constraints are needed on presidential war powers to reduce the risk of a war against Iran based on such a false pretense. Such constraints, Brzezinski said, should not prevent the president from using force in response to an attack on the US, but should make it more difficult to carry out an attack without adequate justification.

Brzezinski's warning came a few weeks after the publication in April of former Central Intelligence Agency director George Tenet's memoirs, which revealed that CIA officials had told Iranian officials in a face-to-face meeting that the Bush administration would hold Iran responsible for any al-Qaeda attack on the US that was planned from Iranian territory.

[hippiechick]

1. Wow, ya think?

:spank:

[aquart]

4. Yeah, ain't he quick?

[Kikosexy2]

27. No sh*t...

we're ahead here...we know what's possibly coming our way...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. Naaaww! Our beloved leader would never do that. Just look at how we got into Iraq.

Why, he even went to congress to ask permission to protect us from Al-Queda that was in cahoots with Saddam. And, congress agreed!

And, we can all see how well that's worked.

[Javaman]

3. A false flag op? really? well knock me over with a feather.

I don't think anyone could have predicted that... :sarcasm:

Where do these fucking johnny come lately genius' come from?

[Dhalgren]

10. Look, Brzezinski isn't a "johnny come lately" and he is doing everything

he can to warn everyone that this administration is planning an attack on this country (either by letting one happen or otherwise) and will use that attack as a pretext to bombing Iran. Brzezinski is the highest level person so far to come out publicly with this kind of warning and I am grateful that he has. We need more people of Brzezinski's caliber speaking up, so he will get no ridicule from me...

[Javaman]

17. Oh I see. well okay then. It being a public statement is different. nt

[Dhalgren]

18. Right. As a matter of fact, Brzezinski spoke in front of a congressional

committee earlier this year (I think) and said much the same thing. He said that he feared a "false flag" attack on the US that would be used as a pretext for attacking Iran. I remember it being a topic on the boards here for a day or two. Maybe in January? I haven't the best of memories.

[Javaman]

21. The sad part is, if a false flag op does happen the MSM will paint

him as a conspiracy nut.

[Dhalgren]

23. Well, I agree with you there. I don't think he will be able to avoid that.

He will be right, but that won't make the least difference...

[Golden Raisin]

24. And Congress will do fucking nothing,

or worse, vote Bush more dictatorial powers.

[gatorboy]

5. But I though Al-Qaeda was Sunni based,

and Iran was Shi- ah, forget it. People will never listen.

[sabra]

7. haven't you heard? Iran is arming the Taliban...

:sarcasm:

[LynnTheDem]

14. That still cracks me up! How could ANY American be dumb enough

to swallow that??!

"Iran arming the Taliban"... *snort*

[uppityperson]

28. good thing Santa is on our side

With thanks to Maddy, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1054679

[NewJeffCT]

16. You mean that old Sunni-Shiite thing?

It's nothing compared to that Cubs-Cardinals rivalry! Why, I heard the Iranians & the Saudis were playing baseball in an Indiana marketplace the other day.

[Dhalgren]

6. This sounds strangely familiar....

Vizzini: "I've hired you to help me start a war. It's an prestigious line of work, with a long and glorious tradition."

False flag attacks are a tried and true method of lying a nation into war. It is just usually done better and with more finesse than these mouth-breathers seem capable of. How long will the governing class put up with Bush and his gang of Vizzini's? Forever? It appears so...

[Sapere aude]

8. That kind of attack would make * a dictator too. His latest presidential order makes him in charge

of the government if he declares a disaster has taken place.

My worst nightmare. The neocons fake an al-Qaeda attack. The make a disaster happen and blame it on al-Qaeda then Bush attacks Iran while he makes himself dictator and cancels the 2008 presidential election.

For that reason alone both he and Cheney need to be impeached and kicked out of office.

Would the military go along with that plan? Would we have civilians fighting civilians in the streets? I wonder.

[sabra]

9. don't forget about the "detention centers" Halliburton is building in case of a national emergency

:scared:

[Dhalgren]

13. I think that they are actually building three or more of these "camps"

around the country, so at least we won't be too crowded...

[sabra]

15. edit to "center(s)" :-)

[DemGa]

25. Do you know where these detention centers are

being built or if any are already constructed? Thanks

[DemGa]

26. Undisclosed locations

"four undisclosed locations over the next five years." Scary stuff.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/33295/

[Mist]

11. We need to ask not only "would the military go along with that plan?' but also "would

local and state police go along with that plan?" I'm hoping not...

[Dhalgren]

19. I think that it will depend to some extent where you are. I am in Alabama

and I believe that the police and local authorities down here would go right along with practically anything the Leader asked. I hope I am wrong, but I fear I am not.

[malaise]

12. Looks like Brzezinski has joined the rest of sane people

and put on his tin foil hat. Bravo!

[Philosoraptor]

20. You can take that to the bank.

[Blackhatjack]

22. This is like Bush giving Al Qaeda a Road Map To Follow To Escalate Battle to the Entire Middle East

You draw a line in the sand and dare the enemy to step over it.

Then you state if 'someone' steps over that line, I am holding you responsible whether you did it or not.

This is the key paragraph:

"Brzezinski, the national security adviser to president Jimmy Carter from 1977 through 1980 and the most senior Democratic Party figure on national-security policy, told a private meeting sponsored by the non-partisan Committee for the Republic in Washington on May 30 that an al-Qaeda terrorist attack in the US intended to provoke war between the United States and Iran was a possibility that must be taken seriously, and that the administration of President George W Bush might accuse Iran of responsibility for such an attack and use it to justify carrying out an attack on Iran."

Just like going after Saddam for 9/11.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

30. ,...which is precisely why I CAN'T HELP wondering if they're in cahootz,...

,...

I mean, OBL got EXACTLY what he wanted (e.g. removal of U.S. forces from Saudi Arabia, execution of a M.E. authoritarian who HATED OBL and his extremist lot, and a means to recruit additional 'jihadists'). Simultaneously, BushCO get their profiteering war, spreading their corporo-benevolent imperialism abroad.

They serve one another's goals so very well!!!!

[Grandrose]

29. Wonder why I am not surprised!!

:think: Although, with Bush's polls in the toilet, does he really need an excuse?

[AspenRose]

31. You bet your ass he would!

eom

[blues90]

32. I'm certain that they will find some way to pull off their attack

At this point it appears to be the only way they can retain power and what better way than to start another war . They have proven over and over that they don;t care about american lives or any other life that gets in their way .

There is a long list of things that bear this out that is to long to list here , we all know what they are . Begin with 9/11 and attacking a defenseless country and then Katrina .

[Marr]

33. Amazing to watch the older, pragmatic foreign policy sorts acknowledge just

how radical this current administration is. Say what you like about guys like Brzinski- but they were at least sane. Their goals and methodology did at least make a kind of machiavellian sense. Even if I disagreed with them almost all of the time, they were operating in the real world.

The Bush Administration is full of ideologues who are completely divorced from reality, and proud of it. They're willing to sacrifice anything to their ridiculous ideas, and seem to regard stubborn refusal of reality to be a sign of their political purity. Of the old guard, none seem more closely associated with the Bush Administration than Henry Kissinger- and that's not surprising. He's the same sort of blind idiot.

[CGowen]

34. just use an incident ?

If the United States continues to be bogged down in a protracted bloody
involvement in Iraq, the final destination on this downhill track is likely to
be a head-on conflict with Iran and with much of the world of Islam at large.
A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves Iraqi failure
to meet the benchmarks; followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility
for the failure; then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the U.S.
blamed on Iran; culminating in a “defensive” U.S. military action against
Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire
eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan

http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/testimony/2007/BrzezinskiTestimony070201.pdf



The biggest danger is that al Qaeda will deliberately provoke a war with a "false-flag" operation, say, a terrorist attack carried out in a way that would make it appear as though it were Iran's doing. The United States should be extremely wary of such deception. In the event of an attack, accurately assigning blame will require very careful intelligence work. It may require months, or even years, of patient investigating to identify the plotters behind well-planned and well-executed operations

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070501faessay86304-p30/bruce-riedel/al-qaeda-strikes-back.html





Who is Al-Qaeda?

‘Al-Qaeda is a U.S.-sponsored Intelligence Asset used to Justify War in the Middle East: Interview with Michel Chossudovsky
The Use of 9/11 as a Pretext to Wage War
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060720&articleId=2769