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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:38 PM
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Goodling In Private Email: ‘Send Directly Up To Me, Outside The System’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/06/goodling-email/

Goodling In Private Email: ‘Send Directly Up To Me, Outside The System’

New Justice Department communications released tonight include an email from Monica Goodling, former counsel to Alberto Gonzales, directing another official to draw up a directive giving her unprecedented authority to hire and fire political staffers. Goodling tells the official, assistant attorney general Paul Corts, to “send it directly up to me, outside the system.”

Read the exchange:



The authority Goodling was requesting in this January 2006 exchange was first reported by Murray Waas last month in the National Journal. Waas detailed how Alberto Gonzales had “signed a highly confidential order in March 2006 delegating to two of his top aides” — Goodling and then-chief of staff Kyle Sampson — “extraordinary authority over the hiring and firing of most non-civil-service employees of the Justice Department.”

The memo suggested “a broad effort was under way by the White House to place politically and ideologically loyal appointees throughout the Justice Department, not just at the U.S.-attorney level.” During testimony last month, Goodling admitted that she had “taken inappropriate political considerations into account” while hiring career employees at the Department.

In his article, Waas quoted a senior Justice Department official “who did not know of Gonzales’s delegation of authority until contacted by National Journal” but who “said that it posed a serious threat to the integrity of the criminal-justice system.” Now we know why the senior official didn’t know about it — because Goodling sought to keep it “outside the system.”
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:41 PM
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1. hmmm, that's the one that leapt out at me too remember
still don't know if it's against the Hatch Act though...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:44 PM
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4. I know! I sent you the link! nt
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:02 PM
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8. Yes, evading official e-mail sytem in conduct of gov biz is a violation.
I do have a nagging question though. Does "Presidential Records Act" apply to DoJ? or just White House?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:08 PM
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9. or the whole Executive Branch which includes both? n/t
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:42 PM
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2. K&R! nt
:kick:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:43 PM
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3. The Commitee was soft balling her.
She has commited crimes and knew that she was doing so. She needs to be called up again and actually interogated this time.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:54 PM
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5. Errr....
never mind. That comment would get this thread locked. :spank:
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:02 AM
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22. I believe you're right. There's an elephant in the room...again. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:56 PM
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6. Is it true that email in it's electronic form will reveal whether or not it has been doctored?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:00 PM
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7. Fucking Nazis.
They have no idea what it means to be an American. They are loyal to their party, not their Nation.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:09 PM
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10. Your title doesn't match what's in the email
she wasn't telling someone to send it to her outside the system. She said it was OK to do so.

I don't know if that's a violation or not... just pointing out the difference between your title and what the email says.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:20 PM
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11. Why would she even suggest that? Wouldn't this be sent through normal
DoJ channels if she had said nothing? Sounds like it was a polite way for her to direct how it was handled.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:26 PM
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12. Dunno
As I said, I was just pointing out that the email does not say what the title indicates.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:03 PM
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16. Yes, it does
That statement is quoted from one of her emails.

Where do you see that it doesn't match since it's a direct quote in the OP?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:41 PM
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17. The quote in the headline:
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 11:08 PM by MonkeyFunk
"Send directly to me, outside the system."


The real quote:


"OK to send directly to me, outside of system."

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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:36 PM
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13. I will never understand
why these numbskulls leave any paper trail. I use the telephone or see someone personally if I have business that I do not want to be "discoverable" if someone is issuing subpoenas.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:35 PM
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20. They must assume their phones are tapped too.
Would you trust Karl & Alberto to leave your phone alone simply because you were working for them? You know their bots have to be monitored as much or more than their opponents. I mean, just look at Karl & Alberto.

I bet they sneak up on people too, hoping to overhear something. Hide behind doors, in bathroom stalls.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:42 PM
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14. Smoking gun. She knew what she was doing was wrong.
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Decruiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:48 PM
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15. How do they say yes in Maine? A yah? Wow, this young woman should just
give it up.

Boggles the mind, all the time.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:06 PM
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18. is there independent verification of what her statement means?
"OK to send directly to me, outside the system." What does that mean? How would it be sent directly to her "outside the system"? What is the system that is being referred to?

Questions that ought to be asked.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:09 PM
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19. No
Nobody has explained what it means - but it must be something evil! So evil, that even misquoting it is acceptable.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:55 PM
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21. Displaying my iggerance here, but...
last time Monica was softballed interrogated, she went limp on them, gave the big eyes, "I'm just a little blonde girl, don't hurt me" and they fell into it. :banghead:

Are there any WOMEN attorneys who would be available to interrogate her and so not fall into this psychological trap?

I'm not being sexist here. Look at the make-up of the questioners- all older 'powerful' MALES. Monica didn't stand up to them, she 'submitted'...and in such a way that she didn't answer the questions, and they couldn't ask, because she WAS being 'submissive'.

I think having women asking the questions would change the dynamic on that is all.
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