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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:54 AM
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"War on Poverty" or massacre of the impoverished as part of a grand plan?
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 07:42 AM by Pacifist Patriot
This may be over the top, so for those of you who despise conspiracy theories please skip this post. I've been giving this much thought lately and have come to the conclusion that the "war on poverty" is much like the "clear skies initiative" and other such Label Lies.

It is a phrase deliberately designed to distract from the reality that the exact opposite is what is going on. I'm not so sure the Republicans are putting their head in the sand about climate change, overpopulation, peak oil and severe strains on natural resource allocation. I think they have found a solution and began implementing it years ago. This theory explains why the Republican candidates for President are discussing what they are discussing and ignoring what they are ignoring.

Overt grab for oil fields aside...

Consider social program cuts, pathetic natural disaster response and repulsive nonresponse to genocide in regions like Darfur. I'm also not convinced Iraq is solely about oil and money. Muslims have the highest birth rate in the world. Is a holy war with that fact looming in the back of the aggressors minds too much of a leap of illogic?

Let's consider the gullible fundamentalist Christians willing to embrace a rapture and end world scenario. Cheering on the strength of Israel and the prospect of a cataclysmic war in the Middle East simply because that's one of the prerequisites for Christ's coming in glory. Are they being psychologically prepped to go cheerfully to their deaths so they won't consume the water, air and oil the wealthy elite have reserved for themselves?

I'm seriously wondering if the "far right/neo-con" agenda is also one of depopulation so the inevitable wars over resources will have, for the most part, already be won by attrition.

Please tell me I'm wrong.
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Matsubara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:16 AM
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1. Wasn't the "War on Poverty" declared by Lyndon Johnson?
For all his faults, Johnson's poverty plan at least increased funding for housing food and medical aid to the poor.

To my knowledge, the GOP is philosophically 100% opposed to ANY kind of aid to the poor.

In their world, the poor must grovel to private sector "charities" which in turn throw huge balls and benefits to congratulate themselves for their generosity.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:19 AM
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2. Shhhh. Don't disturb this story with logic!
Are there no poor houses?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:22 AM
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5. Hey, I didn't claim it was perfect.
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 07:24 AM by Pacifist Patriot
And if I can read, I'm pretty sure I can, I made a comment about a "leap of illogic." Just throwing some thoughts out there. I don't care if they get shot down. In fact, I hope they do.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:21 AM
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4. I didn't say they coined the phrase. I mean they are exploiting it.
And their opposition to any kind of the aid to the poor pretty much supports my cock-eyed theory, don't you think?
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:20 AM
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3. I have a minor degree in Environmental Science....
I used to argue with my professor that it didn't make any sense if depopulation was the goal, why we were worried about people dying from aids and other diseases in Africa. Its an oxymoron. If evolution and survival of the fitest (in the case these days, the richest), then why care what happens to people.

In reality there is a lot of space still, we pay farmers not to grow food, we allow corporate conglomerates to go into an underdeveloped area that is fine the with doing the things they have for centruries, and rape its natural splendor by paying off a few at the top, or just taking it.

I think what is unsustainable is corporate theivery. Someone was talking about slave labor the other day. And made a point in saying that we are just as enslaved... to debt, taxes, and ultimately working for the very corporations we despise.. so what is the definition of enslavement?

I'm not sure if its an ultimate disgusting design to make 1984 real, or whether its just corporate bottom line b.s. that allows things like the FDA to overlook the many chemicals put into our foods that make us sick, or people deciding that adding a carbon tax to fix global warming will do anything but add money to someone else's back pocket...when true fixes come with better infrastructure within cities and real technology on energy that won't harm our environment (and I don't mean with nuc power either...that's a huge environmental waste that is more disgusting than coal powered plants). I could go on all day with the crap that goes on. Sometimes it looks rather rigged, but then there is a bottom line. Corporations are supposed to make money. It is illegal to waste stock holders money---so I'm not sure how corporate sallaries have become so out of whack. I think some stock holders need to investigate their rights, and sue the shit out of these big wigs who think cutting pensions are cost cutting, while CEO's have exuberant sallaries and perks.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:18 AM
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6. The war on poverty is over....We lost
Instead what we have now is a war on the poor, disabled, minority, populations there is a very thin veil of culling the herd. Most of these kompassionete konservatives wink and nod, then chuckle to themselves and others like them, we're in a desperate race right now to see who can cross the finish line first, either we put the brakes on these fools and really try to do something for humanity, or, we die. Then all the dittospanks will be very happy, until they become the target.
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:38 AM
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7. Poor people are a drain on the economy.
Think of all the wars we could fight without always having to mess with all these poor people who need basic necessities of life. Simple dededuction: the rich would have more goodies if the poor people would do the right thing and vanish.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:41 AM
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8. culling the herd
Wow, you said in three words the concept I was trying to get at.
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