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Thu Jun-07-07 08:33 AM
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Paris Hilton is FREE! In other news, N Korea test fires missile. |
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Great to have CNN to slash a banner headline, breaking news, about Paris Hilton, then in smaller headlines http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/06/07/nkorea.missile/index.html a story about North Korea firing a test missile. Oh the humanity.
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:37 AM
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:39 AM
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2. this is newsworthy only because it demonstrates |
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rich person's justice vs. poor person's justice.
Awww, Paris didn't like jail! She cried!
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:41 AM
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plenty of folks get early release because of overcrowding |
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she also shouldn't be treated any worse than others just because she has a lot of money.
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:54 AM
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8. Curiosity gets me on this one...what if there were some others |
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that received say 45 days for essentially the same offense, but have served 20 or 30 days, would it not be appropriate to allow them to go free before Hilton?
Now I'll be honest and say I don't know the particulars of the jail she is in, but I am willing to bet, there are at least a couple of others that could have been cut loose instead of Hilton. Nothing like "Justice for all"...:mad:
Back to my old fight for equality...the rich are more "equal" than others...yeah, I can buy that...x(
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Thu Jun-07-07 09:22 AM
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11. It may have been the needs of the facility. |
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She could not be kept in the general population - essentially, she was in isolation. Those cells are generally reserved for the most dangerous felons, those who would be a danger to other inmates, or for 'snitches' who would be in danger from other inmates. If someone came in who needed that cell, they'd have every reason to boot her out.
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Thu Jun-07-07 01:20 PM
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34. Why not move her into the General Population area... |
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she was/is a criminal...where are all of the RW screechmonkeys now?
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Thu Jun-07-07 05:02 PM
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40. the cases should be dealt with on an individual basis, |
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not according to some proportional quota system
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:43 PM
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41. I agree, but not knowing how many times an individual broke |
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probation, and knowing that Hilton broke it 3x, is a couple of days really any kind of "punishment?"
I'm not sure of the protocol in these situations, but it gives the distinct impression that the wealthy always seem to get off w/a lot less than those of considerably lesser means...:(
"Undisclosed medical condition" can be anything, would the judge have afforded the same situational circumstances to another, say a young black man w/o a support mechanism?
Then again, for all I know, she might have a tumor...but then again, would someone else w/the same tumor be afforded leniency?
All things considered...the poor almost always get the short shrift, and no one ever seems to care...:(
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Thu Jun-07-07 09:33 AM
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13. One actress from "Lost" only served a day for a DUI conviction |
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Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 09:36 AM by Mike Daniels
Besides, I support anything that will probably cause Bill O'Reilly's head to explode on live TV.
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Thu Jun-07-07 11:58 AM
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22. They had her in the penthouse cell away from the crowding. |
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Thu Jun-07-07 12:01 PM
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23. No, she should be treated worse because she's a spoiled princess |
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Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 12:01 PM by EstimatedProphet
who thinks she shouldn't have to go to jail because that's for the 'little people'.
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Thu Jun-07-07 12:02 PM
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24. Three days, give me a break... Early release after |
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3 freaking days.... Who has ever received that?
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Thu Jun-07-07 01:04 PM
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31. now after Paris being let go, to spend 40 days in her house |
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with a detection bracelet on, what will Libby get?? Justice system fails again, total BS this is. Jail is only for us "regular people".
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Thu Jun-07-07 01:07 PM
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32. Go to her rich home, with her rich food, and her rich friends, |
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and this is punishment? Hell, that would be a vacation for me.. Big time...
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Thu Jun-07-07 01:11 PM
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33. unbelieveable huh? the nerve of these people. |
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can't serve justice Paris??? You spoiled brat!!!!
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Thu Jun-07-07 04:44 PM
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36. justice was served in the original sentence of probation |
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probation officers work with the convicted to keep them on task and don't always send those who don't live up to the terms to jail. I don't think you've really experienced a weekend in solitary if you think it's such gravy. In our legal system, it's the judge and jury who determine justice on an individual basis. I really don't see why Hilton should be treated any worse than any of the others who are given chances to mitigate violations of the terms of their probation. Happens all the time. I think a weekend in jail may just do the trick for this one. If it doesn't, her probation officer will make whatever recommendations to the judge he/she thinks appropriate. That mitigation is not set in concrete. Violations are managed according to the individual and the circumstances surrounding the violation. This one really didn't seem all that serious to me. A weekend in jail is pretty tough, and it's not like she retained all of the freedom the earlier probation ruling gave her.
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:44 AM
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4. If it were you or me, we'd still be in jail. |
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Thu Jun-07-07 04:51 PM
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37. I've watched folks fail their piss tests and still avoid a violation |
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she served a weekend in solitary and has lost the privileges and freedom of the earlier probation ruling, and I think time has been added to her sentence.
I really dispute that anyone else would still be in jail. It's not like she repeated the crime or did something so horrible in the violation, or poses some unacceptable risk to the public. This is standard management of a probation violation. What 'stinks' is all of the second-guessing from those of us outside of the system who know next to NOTHING about the particulars which the officials used to make their rulings and determinations.
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:45 AM
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5. I wish that some others received the same treatment... |
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Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 08:45 AM by rasputin1952
but if you have money, you get off the hook...if this was a poor, black, gay, Spanish speaking male, another 45 days would have tacked on...just to show that the "Justice was being served"...:grr:
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:57 AM
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9. At least now she won't have to wear that dreadful prison clothing |
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Didn't fit right, how crude! Cruel and unusual punishment for sure. And I'll bet it was just awful having to survive in that club fed college dorm.
Our criminal justice system has lost the moral authority to imprison anyone because they don't treat everyone the same.
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Thu Jun-07-07 09:11 AM
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10. TMZ had a video posted of her some months back |
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.. in a nightclub w/ her sister Nicky, she was spewing the "N- word" ("so-an-so dances like a n---er")and making fun of Lindsey Lohan for being "poor" (less rich than Paris, I guess) and having red pubic hair.
So, I suppose that's another reason why they seperated her from the general prision population.
Sorry, no sympathy here. If overcrowding was the excuse, they should have stuck her in a cell with on or two other inmates. Why should law-abiding citizens give a f*ck?
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Thu Jun-07-07 09:43 AM
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14. I just watched a news conference |
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Some jackass mostly kept saying, "That's a good question." He said public opinion shouldn't have anything to do with their decision. Sounds like something you would hear from Junior. Public officials who are not accountable to the public.
I don't think he said overcrowding had anything to do with this. He implied Hilton had some kind of medical condition and then took cover behind her privacy rights.
All those currently incarcerated in US prisons, take heed: Start crying right now and don't stop. You should get released, I mean transferred to home, with almost twice as much credit for time served as you actually spent in jail.
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Thu Jun-07-07 10:19 AM
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15. if I cry to my bank, will they forgive my mortgage? |
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if I cry to Cablevision, can I get free cable TV and internet service?
If I cry to my Toyota dealer, will he upgrade my Avalon to a Lexus?
If I cry to the IRS, will they go away forever?
Oh my, this list can go on and on...
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Thu Jun-07-07 10:48 AM
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16. I want Junior and Lord Vader to resign right now!! |
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Booooooo hoooooo!!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Thu Jun-07-07 11:29 AM
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18. LOL- that should've been #1 on my list! |
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Thu Jun-07-07 11:40 AM
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19. Check it out, more Hilton fun over here. |
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Thu Jun-07-07 12:06 PM
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25. The remaining inmates |
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Thu Jun-07-07 12:55 PM
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29. Getting out early is very common |
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the jails are over crowded and this is a common practice. Many inmates end up serving about 1/10 of their total time.
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:41 AM
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3. Kim Jong-il must really like her. |
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:47 AM
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6. What you really believed that Hilton would actually do the time? Why? |
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Remember M Jackson? Or R Kelly? Gees, anyone who thinks that the rich, famous or powerful will actually get the same treatment as the rest of america by the justice system is really naive.
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Thu Jun-07-07 08:53 AM
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7. Did Herr Decider pardon her? |
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Thu Jun-07-07 09:30 AM
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12. Paris is grounded. Must feel like jail to her without the bad clothes and |
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Thu Jun-07-07 10:50 AM
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17. Freeing Paris emboldens our enemies. n/t |
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Thu Jun-07-07 11:49 AM
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20. And if she were black and poor... |
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She'd be lucky to see friggin' daylight for a couple of years.
This society's version of "justice" is so racist and classist I'm thoroughly disgusted. Nothing more to say.
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Thu Jun-07-07 04:54 PM
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39. blacks and the poor get breaks too |
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I've witnessed them. Also, they likely don't have their ordeal so publicized and scrutinized.
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Thu Jun-07-07 11:53 AM
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21. 42 days with the ankle thingy...she is homebound for 42 days |
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Thu Jun-07-07 12:11 PM
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26. "Penis Addiction" is not a medical condition. |
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Thu Jun-07-07 03:23 PM
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35. Neither is Peroxide Addiction |
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her roots are showing :rofl:
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Thu Jun-07-07 12:44 PM
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27. Guess they are not equipped to handle drug/alcohol withdrawl? |
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Cuz that's the first thing that came to my mind about her "medical condition". Withdrawl symptoms start between 24-48 hours of the last drink/drug intake if there is a heavy addiction problem. Sometimes so severe that our patients have had to be heavily sedated w/ ativan every 15 minutes..and if they are bad enough, wrist restraints to keep them from pulling at things/their IV lines or hitting us cuz there is NO reasoning with a person going thru severe detox.
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Thu Jun-07-07 12:47 PM
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It's odd. As the poverty stricken lesbian socialist/Social Democrat, who can't even get health care, I should be the one who wants Paris' head. The problem with that is, I'm the one here who has actually spent extended periods of time locked up. Two years in a state nuthouse and in jail many many many times, before I got sober. I have NO problem believing she freaked, for real. There is NOTHING more isolating, no feeling of hopelessness worse than being in jail. You lose all sense of reality and you TRULY don't know if you will ever make it through it. It's why so many first-timers commit suicide. I don't even know how to describe it to help you understand just how awful it is. NOTHING feels worse.
I have no problem with the electronic bracelet for Paris. I think that should be the solution for all non-violent crimes. The jails are crowded enough without sticking people in who can be handled some other way.
...and just btw, I'm not fighting over this. I am way through fighting over here. Lee
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Thu Jun-07-07 04:52 PM
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this will be spun as privelege for Hollywood liberal types and NOT because she is rich.
Mark my words.
As far as I'm concerned, she should have been in the general population. It probably would be the only brush with poor people she will have in her entire life.
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Thu Jun-07-07 09:28 PM
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42. Am I not in on the joke? |
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Your OP stated that Paris is free and in other news, NK fires test missles (which I have seen in other sunken threads) and I was assuming that you were being sarcastic and implying that the media's priorities were out of whack in that they focus on that overexposed Bimbo Paris, rather than reporting the frightening fact that NK is up to their old tricks again.
However, every response on this thread has been about Paris - not one has mentioned the NK missle tests. And every other thread on the North Korean situation that I have seen posted on DU has sunk like a stone. I don't get it. Why doesn't anyone seem to give a shit about North Korea, yet for some reason find the Paris Hilton situation endlessly fascinating? :shrug:
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