OMG! The Freepers are turning! Towards THE CONSTITUTION!!!11!!

[elehhhhna]

There IS hope -- their comments on this thread are very, very revealing. THEY'RE FED UP WITH THIS MALADMINISTRATION, TOO.


Bureau of Prisons Can Suspend Attorney-Client Privileges (War On Terror)
Government Security News ^ | June 6, 2007 | GSN

Posted on 06/07/2007 7:07:40 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

One month after the 9/11 attacks, the Department of Justice issued an interim rule that gave its Bureau of Prisons the right to scrap traditional notions of attorney-client privilege in order to monitor conversations between inmates suspected of terrorism and their lawyers.

Last month, the department announced that the final version of that rule, which will become effective on June 4, extends from four months to one year the time period during which such intrusive monitoring of those jailhouse conversations can take place.

The final rule also extends the authority to impose such monitoring, known as “special administrative measures,” beyond the Bureau of Prisons. It will also apply to senior officials who run other units of the federal government that might also be detaining prisoners suspected of terrorist-related activities, such as the U.S. Marshals Service and the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) unit of DHS.


CHECK OUT THE COMMENTS, HERE-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1846386/posts

[npincus]

1. Sweet Jesus, it's The Rapture!

[NewJeffCT]

2. they're beginning the campaign for 2008 then

the only way for Republics to get elected next year is to portray themselves as the anti-Bush.

[mediawatch]

3. Just like Gore distanced

himself from Clinton. Republicans will have to do the same. Only on a more sever level

[yardwork]

4. That was a mistake on Gore's part, as Clinton had 60% or higher approval rates

Chimpy, on the other hand, is poison to any candidate. Nobody really believes that his approval is even as high as 25%.

[NewJeffCT]

5. Big difference, though

Clinton was over 60% popularity at the time, while Bush is 28-29%.

[yardwork]

6. Face! We posted at the same time!

:toast:

[SteppingRazor]

7. I love how quickly the armchair revolutionaries speak up over there

Not that we don't have those people here (we certainly do), but look at that "Exercise our 2nd Amendment rights" post. What did it take? Five posts? Six? Christ.

[yardwork]

8. One of the best posts in the lot -

(probably being banned from FR as I post)

“I’m not sure how it helps Justice if I suddenly am informed that my lawyer (present or previous) can end up taking the stand against me.”

It doesn’t and there is no Justice in America any longer.

We have a government that refuses to enforce laws except for those that they wish to enforce, or those that are convenient to enforce, all the while telling you and I that we must give up more freedom, more choices, more money, while handing our freedoms choices and money out to everyone in the world but those of us who have earned it.

This is no longer America, I don’t know what it is, but it’s not that.

[malaise]

15. Wow

Freepers are now afraid of Bushco and his goons. Ah well.

[Blackhatjack]

9. I keep saying by the 2008 election the Repubs won't even know who Bush is ....

They have no hope in the light of the polling numbers and trends unless they begin distancing themselves from Bush and then repudiating his policies.

The ten(10) candidates running for the Repub nomination have no chance of being elected.

IMHO the eventual Repub Nominee has not entered the race yet.

[Turbineguy]

10. Well, yes, but....

those policies might be applied to wife-beaters, drunk drivers and weeny waggers as well. So their concern is well placed.

[Arugula Latte]

18. ...

:rofl:

[Th1onein]

11. They're not just Freepers; they're Americans

We have been divided long enough. When you look at studies asking questions on ISSUES, you find that most Americans agree on many issues, and they take a LIBERAL stand. Right wing talk show hosts and the mainstream media have turned Americans against Americans. Freepers have been sold a bill of goods, and when they figure that out, they are going to be HIGHLY pissed off. If we continue to look at them as the enemy, we are doing as much damage as the right wing media.

[Jack Rabbit]

13. Wonderful point

We must remove the regime (the real enemy) before it does any more damage. To do that, we will need all the help we can get.

A repentant Freeper is not a prisoner of war; he is a new ally.

[Bake]

23. IF they figure that out, their heads will explode.

Their personality types simply respond to authoritarian figures. While they may agree with us on some issues, they'll never get over their need for someone to tell them what to think.

I'm not holding my breath.

Bake

[NorthernSpy]

28. I just wish they'd realize the same thing about us...

I think that the most important issues in the coming years will not lend themselves to a neat left/right divide. IMO, the division between an elite agenda on the one hand, and the interests of ordinary Americans on the other will grow increasingly significant.

[tridim]

12. WTF took them so long?

These Bush freaks have been shitting on the Constitution since day 1.

[Californian Dreamer]

14. Fear

They've been lead around the nose by fear, fear of liberals, terrorists, or what have you. What is changing now is they are becoming afraid of Bush himself.

[lyonn]

16. They were busy making mtg. payments and not paying attention

to what has happened to our laws we took for granted. They are for small government and found out they got Big Business to run our country.

[originalpckelly]

17. This comment still gets my goat:

"I have no problem with a policy like this being applied to non-citizens.I firmly believe that non-citizens do not deserve and should not receive many of the protections provided by our Constitution."

I have one simple response to that:
You and so many others forget that the US Constitution is not a law that governs particular people, but governs government. So long as the US government is involved, it must follow the US Constitution.

It is a threat to us that our government is so blatantly willing to flaunt principles that not only extend our whole history as a nation, but date back in some cases to the Magna Carta, a document that is almost 800 years old.

[lpbk2713]

19. I commend you and anyone else who visits Freeperville for your fortitude.

Those nut jobs are more than I can handle.

Not to mention that their website looks like it was designed as a fifth grade HTML project.

[originalpckelly]

22. I know, I can stand to hear their opinions, but I cannot stand that site's crappy design.

It's so awful! Even if it is plain looking, I could understand it, but they have poor functionality as well. It seems very clunky to me, very dis-organized and hard to read anything.

[madrchsod]

20. they`ll get around to blaming the democrats

freepers will never take responsibility for their actions. who are they going to vote for? every republican running is`t but two steps behind bush in their thinking...much to do about the brain dead free republic

[Orsino]

21. Has someone explained the document to them?

That this is the very one they've helped dismantle?

[sakabatou]

24. Has the Messiah returned and the Temple rebuilt?

[rucky]

25. It also tells me that if and when the Clampdown happens

- the martial law that Bushie and Gonzo are stetting the stage for - even many freeper types will set their limits. I hope I hope I hope that the populace doesn't go quietly into martial law.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

26. Did It Make Them Go Blind?

I would think the constitution would all sorts of hurt their eyes...

[Blackhatjack]

27. The rise of private mercenaries like Blackwater will put them down as well....

When a President has the power to direct the National Guard into any state, and has defacto control of private mercenaries (exceeding 100,000 now stationed in Iraq) you are looking at a very scary situation.

Freepers will be surprised when they are silenced as well.