Paris needs to be back in jail...

[coco77]

along with scooter,bush,cheney,rumsfeld and a whole host of others. This judicial system is a joke!

[emilyg]

1. Agree 1000%%

[coco77]

49. Now she's too good to come to the court...

she has the judges and the lawyers arguing because she wants to testify by phone, and it looks like she is going to get her way again!

[MadBadger]

2. This is the only reason the Paris Hilton story is semi news worthy.

It just shows how money talks and how the judicial system is a joke. Remember the next time any of you go to jail in the state of CA, say you are having a nervous breakdown, and they let you out. Right? Isnt that how it works now?

[Jed Dilligan]

22. It's the jail system

Anyone rich enough to sue it walks, because the jails violate the human and civil rights of EVERYONE they house.

[malaise]

25. It also goes very well with the conservatives

begging for Scooter and Bush, Cheney, Rove and Gonzo's total contempt for the law. The law does not apply to them.

[bdamomma]

3. letting her out with a detection bracelet, and 40 days to remain

in her house, What BS, let her and all those who commit crimes sweat it out!!! now if that was us, we would be behind bars. What total BS.

[Madspirit]

4. Yeah...Paris kills people in wars?

Don't put that stupid vacuous child in the same group with those real criminals.

It's odd. As the poverty stricken lesbian socialist/Social Democrat, who can't even get health care, I should be the one who wants Paris' head. The problem with that is, I'm the one here who has actually spent extended periods of time locked up. Two years in a state nuthouse and in jail many many many times, before I got sober. I have NO problem believing she freaked, for real. There is NOTHING more isolating, no feeling of hopelessness worse than being in jail. You lose all sense of reality and you TRULY don't know if you will ever make it through it. It's why so many first-timers commit suicide. I don't even know how to describe it to help you understand just how awful it is. NOTHING feels worse.

I have no problem with the electronic bracelet for Paris. I think that should be the solution for all non-violent crimes. The jails are crowded enough without sticking people in who can be handled some other way.

...and just btw, I'm not fighting over this. I am way through fighting over here.
Lee

[coco77]

Well, I have a problem with her...

and her little wrist band, she is probably sitting at home decorating it or thinking up a way to manufacture a prettier one. She isn't the first and won't be the last person who has freaked out in jail, there are plenty of them in there for less than her so let them all out.

[retread]

14. Well said. n/t

[Beaverhausen]

15. No, but she could kill someone while driving drunk

She needs to learn that her actions have consequences.

[Madspirit]

18. Yes, she could have but she didn't

I hope the bracelet works. I hope being confined makes her think. I hope her handlers handle her better in the future.

I hate the way SOME of the rich raise their children. I mean really, how could she be any different than she is. Her own idiot mother sat in court and heckled the judge. I mean really, how moronic can some people be.

I just truly believe that someone like her could not handle what jail is like. Someone like me...could barely handle it. ..and MANY first-timers, kids in for DUI and stuff, do commit suicide. There is NO worse feeling. It's almost impossible to describe.

I hope she learns her lesson.
Lee

[dkofos]

38. She learned her lesson alright. She is rich and above the law.

[JuniperLea]

45. Honey, the only thing she has learned...

Is that her handlers will get her out of any mess she gets herself into.

Being made to stay in a Bev Hills mansion with all the goodies money can buy never taught anyone anything except "greed is good".

She's a dangerous person. I hope everyone stays out of her way.

Her mother is a freak of nature, for sure... and I feel for all kids being raised by air-heads like her. But there are far too many innocent people who are in harm's way with the likes of Paris on the streets.

[mentalsolstice]

47. Oh, come on!

I'd gladly do house arrest if I could do it in her conditions. For the next 40 days, she'll lay around the manse, sunbathe out by the pool (oh, poor Paris, the ankle bracelet will leave a conspicuous tan line), eat gourmet meals, and host parties for her friends. Hell, if she wants to shop, the Rodeo Drive stores will send a store clerk out with their latest inventory.

Gimme a break! She's not being punished at all. Sure, she's simply a cheezy celeb, but she is indicative of all that is wrong with our society right now.

[Madspirit]

27. Beaverhausen

It even surprises me that I feel sorry for her. She just looks so frakking clueless most of the time. ...and then when I read that her own mother sat in the court and heckled the judge...just wow....no wonder that girl has no idea about reality. I guess that was the straw that really made me start to pity her. Her mother MAY be why she got the sentence she got...<g> Judges are funny about being heckled. Clueless and raised by the Clueless. It's just stunning. I hope her handlers recognize the seriousness of this and that they really impress on her that the next time, she won't get out after three days.


If I was the judge I would sentence her to something more meaningful and something that might actually sink in. I am BIG on community service. I would have her work on a soup line feeding the homeless, EVERY day. ...and she couldn't make her maids do it for her...<g> I would make her visit the morgue several times and drive around with EMT folks, seeing just what can really happen when you drive drunk...some therapy...some drying out...getting off the alcohol and drugs...take her license, etc. There are much better ways to make an impression that really lasts, on a person, than locking them up. ...and isn't, ultimately, the purpose to make sure they never do it again.
Lee

[JuniperLea]

39. I had no idea, Lee...

My heart sank reading your tale... I had no idea you'd been through all that. But you are a stronger person for it, right? Don't you think that little air-head deserves to be a stronger person too? And you can bet your last dollar that the area Paris was in didn't even resemble the hell you were in. She was away from the main population, and had constant visitors... doctors, lawyers, etc. Were you allowed that? I'm sure you weren't. And THAT is what I'm pissed about. If it's good enough for Paris, then Lee damn well better get the same treatment!

I'm sure she freaked out. No question in my mind. But it's not supposed to be Club Med, ya know. And who do you really feel more empathy for? The air-head, who will be "punished" by having to hole-up in a Bev Hills mansion complete with servants and everything money can buy? Or the poor soul (and the poor soul's family) who will lose their life because this cretin didn't learn a damn thing and will no doubt continue to behave in a reckless manner?

[nini]

5. This practice is NOT unusual in the L.A. jails because of over crowding

Many inmates serve 1/10th of their sentence then go home with restrictions like she has.


I'm sure who she is helped with the decision, but it's a fairly common procedure in the jails.

Also, while she is annoying, she's hardly at the level of the admin and their cronies.

[MadBadger]

6. She got out because she was going to have a nervous breakdown

not because of overcrowding.

[nini]

7. My point was it is NOT unusual practice in the L.A. jails

It's not like she is the ONLY person this has ever happened to.

[MadBadger]

9. But what I am saying is, say the reason is overcrowding then

They didnt say the reason was for overcrowding, they said because of health issues.

[depakid]

23. Hers was probably cut shorter- but you're right

People with offenses like hers aren't likely to serve their their full sentence. From what I've seen and heard, I expected her to be out in about two weeks, though it was also possible that she'd simply have been processed in- and then processed right back out.

Part of me thinks that, among other things, this is a publicity stunt to drive up support for more jail and prison funding.

[coco77]

11. She should have thought of that...

before hand.

[coco77]

10. Her ass needs to be in jail!

[Madspirit]

19. Grrrr Pound-of-Flesh..Blood Lust...Grrr

Glad to see you're trying to make a better world. Oh wait, you're not.

I HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP. Go be locked up and then I will care what you think.
Lee

[coco77]

26. Quit making excuses for this little bitch...

how in the hell is she making it a better world? I am not talking about you. YOu did your time she needs to do hers...

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[Richard Steele]

28. The desire for a habitual drunk driver to pay a penalty for those crimes is hardly "blood lust".

Are you are argueing that it's OK for people
to get drunk and then climb behind the wheel?

If not, why are you defending someone who HABITUALLY
has done just that?

[Madspirit]

31. Dick...I believe in justice that really accomplishes something

She just looks so frakking clueless most of the time. ...and then when I read that her own mother sat in the court and heckled the judge...just wow....no wonder that girl has no idea about reality. I guess that was the straw that really made me start to pity her. Her mother MAY be why she got the sentence she got. Judges are funny about being heckled. Clueless and raised by the Clueless. It's just stunning. I hope her handlers recognize the seriousness of this and that they really impress on her that the next time, she won't get out after three days.


If I was the judge I would sentence her to something more meaningful and something that might actually sink in. I am BIG on community service. I would have her work on a soup line feeding the homeless, EVERY day. ...and she couldn't make her maids do it for her...<g> I would make her visit the morgue several times and drive around with EMT folks, seeing just what can really happen when you drive drunk...some therapy...some drying out...getting off the alcohol and drugs...take her license, etc. There are much better ways to make an impression that REALLY lasts, on a person, than locking them up. ...and isn't, ultimately, the purpose to make sure they never do it again.

First-timers really do commit suicide at an alarming rate and alcoholism is a disease.
Lee

[Richard Steele]

32. Thanks for the extended explanation.

I could really support a sentence like that. :thumbsup:

[nini]

42. Well, her ass isn't

for whatever reason(s) she's out.

I would imagine there are far more issues to stress about than this.

[TahitiNut]

17. I don't buy it. Overcrowding is alleviated by setting a percentage (time served/sentence) ...

... and releasing people to the probation system as they serve that percentage of their sentence. As overcrowding goes up, the percentage of the sentence goes down. (Jails are for sentences of under 1 year.)

Selectively commuting/converting the sentence of a person whose 'home' includes servants, a swimming pool, a hot tub, and luxuries only dreamt of by over 50% of the population is a miscarriage of justice, imho.

[jakefrep]

21. That's similar to what happens where I live...

There's a regional jail near where I live that serves several counties. Each county is allotted a certain number of cells. Whenever a county goes over its limit, somebody gets their sentence reduced - typically a nonviolent offender.

If Paris Hilton got cut loose in order to lock up a violent criminal for their full sentence, I've got no problem with that. It's not as if she got off scott-free - she still has to do house arrest time. She shouldn't be treated more harshly just because she's a vacuous spoiled brat.

[TexasProgresive]

8. When I heard the news today I had her middle name pop in my

head.

Paris Ite

[DemGa]

12. I think freedom is cheap these days in the USA

Good for her, too bad she has to wear that ankle bracelet.

[MadBadger]

13. Yup too bad she has to do house arrest with an ankle bracelet in her tiny little shack of a house

[coco77]

16. I agree..

they should have used a chain instead.

[bigtree]

20. It's up to the judge to determine whether she's living up to the terms of the original verdict

which was probation.

It's also up to him to make certain that she's living up to those terms. He determined she wasn't. It's then up to the judge to determine what course will ensure that she lives up to the terms of the sentence of probation. He's really not out of bounds. Three days in jail, a weekend in jail, is a standard move by judges to compel compliance and provide an example.

After all, it's not like she repeated the crime. Judges exercise this type of discretion all of the time.

[depakid]

24. And if she violates the terms and conditions

She'll be right back in.

One of those terms and conditions is NO ALCOHOL -and every time she drinks, she's in violation.

Perhaps we should start a pool as to how long it'll be before someone snaps a photo of her drinking... and drops the dime on her.

[republicansarewhores]

29. Whoops... sorry Hans, wrong guess...

Would you like to go for double jeopardy where the score can really change?

Via TMZ:

"Law enforcement officials tell TMZ that Paris' house arrest does not come with any provisions regarding visitors or restrictions on alcohol use."

RAW

[depakid]

33. If that's true- then she's not under standard terms and conditions

which call for abstaining from alcohol in these cases (they're called "wet reckless" dispositions).

I find that difficult to believe, considering that she has to go through a standard alcohol program.

[republicansarewhores]

34. Check TMZ for yourself.

Unless they are lying about what officials told them.

RAW

[depakid]

35. Not that I trust the source- but

"house arrest" and "terms and conditions of probation" are very likely different matters.

A probation violation would have to come before the court via warrant (unless she were busted in the process). A violation of house arrest would send her directly back to jail to serve out her sentence there.

[H2O Man]

36. Uh, like maybe you

didn't hear: she didn't LIKE it there. They served hot dogs for lunch.

[JuniperLea]

41. Oh! The horrors!

There are plenty of books describing in great detail what a person goes through when they feel a mental breakdown coming on... this will be the new tactic... mark my words.

I've never received a DUI... never been in jail... but hell, if I ever do, you damn betcha I'm gonna be pitiful little Camille... coughing on a couch... crying my baby blues out and generally whipping myself up into a psychotic frenzy. Yep.

I'm pissed because there are many, many people in jail right now who are not getting the same treatment. And I'm betting plenty of them didn't put other human beings in harm's way with their reckless behavior.

[H2O Man]

43. I think that

this was planned before she went in. I find it outrageous. It is exactly as bad as it seems.

I am reminded of years gone by, when part of my job was providing services in the county jail. We did both individual and group sessions. It had become popular by the 1990s for inmates to feigh symptoms of a psychiatric disorder, in an attempt to get some "vacation" time at one of the area hospitals. None would have imagined being sent home. It certainly goes to show how differently one social group is treated.

[depakid]

44. More like "balony" sandwiches

LOL.

[Initech]

40. I think we need to remove them all from society for a while.

The so called "Brat Pack" - Paris, Lindsay, Britney, Nicole... they should all go some place quiet and away from society for a long long time. We'll be better off without them.

[Crabby Appleton]

46. Can't she just hire some peasants to serve her sentence for her?

[Kazak]

48. Apparently if you beg enough they'll let you out...

Who the fuck knew?!

:shrug: