"Concerned Women" against hate crimes laws: classifies sex w/ animals & corpses as "orientation"

[Bluebear]

And I will save those here who don't feel we need to include GLBT in hate crime legislation some time. Those interested can read their comments here, so they don't need to repeat the arguments here. :hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1030624


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Kings and Queens:
A "Sexual Orientation" Primer
By Staff

With the introduction of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2007 (ENDA) and the most recent incarnation of "hate crimes" legislation now coming before Members of Congress, it's time to remind everyone that these two bills constitute a shell game in which the liberals always win and you ultimately lose your freedom of speech.

ENDA loosely defines "sexual orientation" as "homosexuality, heterosexuality, or bisexuality," and also includes "gender identity," defined as "the gender-related identity, appearance, or mannerisms or other gender-related characteristics of an individual, with or without regard to the individual's designated sex at birth."

H.R. 1592, the "hate crimes" bill just passed by the House, defines "gender identity" vaguely as "actual or perceived gender-related characteristics." The bill, however, does not offer a definition for "sexual orientation." In one ironic way, that makes it the more honest of the two bills. While ENDA covers three "sexual orientations," 23 "sexual orientations" actually exist.

Would they be covered under ENDA and "hate crimes" legislation? Ostensibly, yes. The left has been trying to pass ENDA and "hate crimes" legislation for years, but only in recent response to the growing political clout of the transgender movement has "gender identity" been added to these bills - a term that would cover #22 in the list below, and by extension #4, #6, #7 and #8.

WARNING: Some of the descriptions in the list below may be offensive to readers' sensibilities.

SEXUAL BEHAVIORS

1. Heterosexuality: the universal norm: sexual interaction with the opposite sex.
2. Homosexuality or "Gay": sexual interaction with persons of the same sex.
3. Bisexuality: sexual interaction with both males and females.
4. Transgenderism: an umbrella term referring to and/or covering transvestitism, drag queen/kings, and transsexualism.
5. Pedophilia: "sexual activity with a prepubescent child (generally age 13 years or younger). The individual with Pedophilia must be age 16 years or older and at least 5 years older than the child. For individuals in late adolescence with Pedophilia, no precise age difference is specified, and clinical judgment must be used; both the sexual maturity of the child and the age difference must be taken into account." (p.571)
6. Transsexuality: the condition in which a person's "gender" identity is different from his or her anatomical sex.
7. Transvestitism: the condition in which a person is sexually stimulated or gratified by wearing the clothes of the other sex.
8. Transvestic fetishism: for males, "intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving cross-dressing." (p. 575)
9. Autogynephilia: the sexual arousal of a man by his own perception of himself as a woman or dressed as a woman. (p. 574)
10. Voyeurism: "obtaining sexual arousal through the act of observing unsuspecting individuals, usually strangers, who are naked, in the process of disrobing, or engaging in sexual activity." (p. 575)
11. Exhibitionism: "recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving the exposure of one's genitals to an unsuspecting stranger." (p. 569)
12. Fetishism or Sexual Fetishism: "intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving the use of nonliving objects (e.g. female undergarments)." (p. 570)
13. Zoophilia: becoming excited by and/or engaging in sexual activity with animals. (p. 576)
14. Sexual Sadism: "recurrent, intense, sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving acts (real, not simulated) in which the psychological or physical suffering (including humiliation) of the victim is sexually exciting to the person." (p. 574)
15. Sexual Masochism: "recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving the act (real, not simulated) of being humiliated, beaten, bound, or otherwise made to suffer." (p. 573)
16. Necrophilia: sexual arousal and/or activity with a corpse. (p. 576)
17. Klismaphilia: erotic pleasure derived from enemas. (p. 576)
18. Telephone Scatalogia: the compulsion to utter obscene topics over the phone. (p. 576)
19. Urophilia: sexual arousal associated with urine. (p. 576)
20. Coprophilia: sexual arousal associated with feces. (p. 576)
21. Partialism: "sexual arousal obtained through exclusive focus on part of the body."(p. 576)
22. Gender Identity Disorder: "a strong and persistent cross-gender identification, which is the desire to be, or the insistence that one is, of the other sex," along with "persistent discomfort about one's assigned sex or a sense of the inappropriateness in the gender role of that sex." (p. 576)
23. Frotteurism: "touching and rubbing against a nonconsenting person." (p. 570)

http://www.cwfa.org/articles/12911/CFI/family/index.htm

[paparush]

1. Zoophilia - U2 Studio Album

"oh zoophilia, I'm down on my knees, I'm beggin ya please to come home"

[Jed Dilligan]

2. Bogus list

Show me the peer-reviewed psychology publication that is the source for these "orientations," cwfa. It's a list of fetishes with orientations mixed in.

[Bluebear]

4. You know that and I know that

But Rush or some other blowbag will undoubtedly now insist we have to 'accept' people with uncommon fetishes and they will be 'protected' if we protect those horrible gays and lesbians.

And the ignorant 33% will buy it.

[Warpy]

3. 1. Heterosexuality: the universal norm:

It's hardly universal, since all the other variations in human (and animal) sexuality exist.

[POAS]

9. It would seem to me that

to expect someone who is homosexual to act and behave as a heterosexual would be out of the norm for that person. Normal behavior is to interact in a sexual way with people you are attracted to.

Society's norms, of course, are another matter but those have never been written in stone in ANY society. Normal behavior, for example, of 21st century Christians would probably be unacceptable to a 10th century one.

Universal normality simply does not exist!

[Spinzonner]

5. Things were so much simpler in the old days

Now I'm going to have to carry around a cheat sheet.

Does anyone know where you can get a laminated reference card ?

[Zenlitened]

6. "Concerned Women" is just about at the Fred Phelps level on the crazy-meter.

What a strangely fixated, obsessive bunch. Bet their office needed hosing down after they finished putting together that list. :yoiks:

[Bluebear]

8. And the article is by "staff"

Yes, I can imagine the room as they had this particular "brainstorming" session.

[Marnieworld]

7. How could something not mentioned in the act be covered by the act?

IT's amazing the liberties these people take to make their arguements. They can't dispute the actual text of the act they object to so they completely fabricate what it "could" say or mean and then argue that. They come up with this list but somehow they're are the ones that should be considered sexually correct? Seems like an awful lot of naughty thinking to me. Holy Strawman Batman!

[William769]

10. April 27, 1993

Dear Mr. XXXX,

As promised I read you November 10, 1992 paper "The invisible Minority in America -- The Quest for Gay Rights in the United States". I found it interesting and inforative. I thank you for providing me a copy.

As I tried to explain in my D.C. office, I do believe American citizens are protected against discrimination by the Constitution, although I admit enforcement is uneven.

I hope the "militant aspect" of the Gay rights movement will not become dominant, as I believe the case to be made can best be made without violence, emotionalism or rancor.

Thanks for taking the time to share your paper and your views.


Kind regards
Porter Goss

[Initech]

11. You have the quote marks wrong on "Concerned Women For America".

It should be Concerned "Women" For America - it is an organization run by all males! Who are apparently all closet cases, by the way!

[unpossibles]

12. I for one, think this is a great breakthrough for the

HHBTPTTTVEFZSSSMNKTUCPGF community! (I think I want that on a T-Shirt....)

wow. There are so many things wrong with that list that I don't know where to begin, so I guess I'll just ignore it. It would appear that the "moral" right cannot differentiate between a consenting adult and a child/animal since they seem confused by all of this.

On the other hand, perhaps this explains why people like Foley keep getting in trouble.... :eyes: