What makes you think your love is more worthy than mine?

[foreigncorrespondent]

Love is love no matter what form it comes in. And quite frankly if you find true and lasting love in your life, then you are one of the fortunate people in this world. Because finding true and lasting love is something that doesn't happen to us all.

I have been fortunate enough to find true love in my life, just not fortunate enough to find true and lasting love. I would like to know that if I am ever fortunate enough to find the kind of true love that lasts a life time, that my love will not just be recognized as being valid, but accepted as being what it is, a love between two people.

For me though, that probably will never be the case in my life, because there are people out there who believe that their form of relationship is the only true and moral form there is.

If LGBTIQQ people are brave enough to come out the closet and live their openly so they do come under the scrutiny of society, then should they not be allowed to have their relationships made valid?

If we look in the animal kingdom we soon find that homosexual relations happen on a regular basis, and the amazing thing is, there is no discrimination. That other animals in the group recognize this as being a valid form of relations between the two animals involved. Why is it that animals have more sense than those who are meant to be at the top of the list in the world, human beings?

If you are heterosexual, in a relationship be it married or domestic partner situation, but frown upon non heterosexual relationships, or think now is not the right time for marriage equality, then what is it that makes you believe your relationship/love is more worthy than the rest? More worthy than mine?

[porphyrian]

1. My love can beat up your love!

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

[Colobo]

2. Lucky those that have experienced the magic of being loved

I'm 23, straight, lonely, and nobody has ever fell in love with me. Crazy, isn't it?

[magellan]

4. I was 23 the first time somebody fell in love with me

You've got plenty of time. The thing is not to look for love -- just give it.

[Colobo]

8. You know... life is too rough to live it without love.

Some people say I'm an old spirit, it could be, because I feel I carry the weight of a long life in my soul despite my young corporal age.

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. :)

[WildEyedLiberal]

11. "feel I carry the weight of a long life in my soul despite my young corporal age."

Wow, do I ever know how you feel.

I'm 22 btw.

[pagerbear]

14. IAWTC. I was 42 before I found love.

I'm 44 and still enjoying it. This one will last a good long time.

[foreigncorrespondent]

5. Not crazy at all!

I know people which took years to find the one. It isn't crazy at all.

Let me let you in on a little well known secret, it will come your way when you least expect it. But when you get it, work bloody hard to keep it. I made the mistake of not working hard enough, and now I am paying the ultimate price.

It will come your way, 23 is still young enough to have a wild time with that one special someone. :)

[Colobo]

7. Sorry to hear that, and thanks for the advice! A big hug for you

and KEEP FIGHTING FOR EQUALITY! :hug:

[DarkTirade]

12. It's just as well... you might do something stupid and get married. :)

I keed, I keed. Actually, not so much... most statistics show that getting married before the age of 25 usually ends badly. I know the one girl I was crazy enough to get married to back when I was younger ended up being... well, crazy enough that it would have ended badly. Hell, I'm 25 now and even if I DID have a special someone, I'd be waiting for a while just to make sure.

[AuntPatsy]

3. A good question and I believe that is exactly what people against certain relationships believe,

pretty pathetic if you ask me..and for the record no one has the right to dictate who someone can fall in love with, no one...

[foreigncorrespondent]

6. Thanks, Aunt Patsy!

You are so right about no one having the right to tell others who they can and cannot fall in love with. :)

Thanks for your input.

[DKRC]

9. K&R! Well said.

:thumbsup:

[twenty4blackbirds]

10. Anthropic principle

what is it that makes you believe your relationship/love is more worthy than the rest? More worthy than mine?

:think:

the Special and Inevitable Anthropic Principle:

The UU Professor of Anthropics had developed the Special and Inevitable Anthropic Principle, which was that the entire reason for the existence of the universe was the eventual evolution of the UU Professor of Anthropics. But this was only a formal statement of the theory which absolutely everyone, with only some minor details of a "Fill in name here" nature, secretly believes to be true.
--Hogfather Terry Pratchett (1996)

The entire reason for the existence of the universe was the eventual evolution of me. :donut:

[DarkTirade]

13. That's just silly.

Everyone knows it was about the eventual evolution of me, not you. :) Man, some people... just so wrapped up in their own little lives...

[ljm2002]

15. Terry Pratchett!

One of the greats, isn't he!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. terry pratchett is unbelievable funny

[frustrated_lefty]

16. I think you're preaching to the choir......

[foreigncorrespondent]

18. Not every member of the DU choir...

...sing in tune!

[SteelPenguin]

17. Ah Love

Like that has anything to do with it.

They see you as having at best a mental illness which needs to be treated, to being at worst a satan worshiper who wants to recruit their children into hell.

To quoth Tina Turner. What's love got to do...got to do with it....

As far as someone who thinks now is not the right time to deal with it, I would say there are a large number of people, bolstered by polls, who are afraid that a wedge issue, and yes it is a wedge issue for independents (read people who can't make up their fucking minds) can be used to exploit the elections and draw focus away from the real issues. Regardless of what some believe most Democratic voters aren't single issue, and will swallow a position here or there be it Abortion/Guns/Gays generally from the social side, in order to win an election.

The fear is that putting up a candidate who publicly speaks and supports 100% GLBT civil rights will create a much higher likelyhood of a loss, which would mean not only no GLBT civil rights, but also more of what we've seen the past 8 years (iraq, korea, iran, katirna, kyoto, torture, ABM, patriot act, etc, etc.)

It has nothing to do with the worthiness of love. It has to do with on the ground realities. Change like this takes time unfortunately, because there are many piggish ignorant people out there who would rather stone a gay person than get stoned with one.

[foreigncorrespondent]

19. Wedge issue?

Say that when you don't have rights, mate! Until then, don't call any persons right to a decent life a wedge issue.

And it has everything to do with love. If it wasn't the little fact that we actually fall in love with people of the same sex, then it wouldn't even be an issue would it?

[VelmaD]

20. what makes you think love between two people...

is more worthy than love between more than two? (If all are freely consenting adults.)

As a poly person I get really tired of hearing about love between any two people. I've been holding back on commenting on this for a while...but my meter has pegged out and I just had to say something.

[foreigncorrespondent]

21. Velma you are reading too much into my words!

I don't believe that a love between two people is more worthy than a love between more than two. But I am talking on personal experience for myself. I am not a poly person, so I cannot speak of it with any experience. But had this been your thread and you were asking that very question, you would know, I think there is no difference when we speak of being in love. Yes I believe there is a difference between loving someone/s and being in love with someone/s. Love is love no matter what form it comes in, and no love is more worthy than the next.

[VelmaD]

22. thank you for clarifying

Like I said, it had just been building up for me for a while and I needed to say something. I understand what people are usually trying to say on threads like this when they talk about how love between any two people should be ok no matter what their gender. But they almost always put it like that...two people. Being poly is even less acceptable than being gay to the larger society...so after a while it grates to see that even here my experience is so far outside what's considered normal that it never gets a mention.

[foreigncorrespondent]

24. No worries, hon!

I should have worded my OP a lot differently, because I do know better, and am a supporter of love no matter how it comes. So thank you for bringing me to task on it. :)

[UTUSN]

25. Uh, that whoever-loves-ME loves ME and NOT you? n/t

[foreigncorrespondent]

26. But...

...why does that make your love more worthy than mine?