I hope some of the most ignorant, ridiculous gay people

[cboy4]

on this planet (the Log Cabin Republicans) were paying close attention to the GOP debate the other night....

You know, when all ten of the cowardly Republican candidates did not raise their hands in response to the question as to whether they feel all gay people should be allowed to serve in the military - including Ron Paul, who I lost a lot of respect.

**crickets**

It was appalling.

Never mind that the United States joins such "progressive countries" such as Iran, North Korea, Syria, Cuba and others in not allowing gays to serve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation_and_military_service

Never mind that openly gay British soldiers are allowed to serve side by side with us in Iraq. (Israel also allows gay people to openly serve.)

Never mind that dozens and dozens of gay linguists who speak the important languages of Arabic and Farsi have had their asses kicked out...even though the military desperately needs these people. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/08/opinion/08benjamin.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

As John Stewart so smartly said, "Apparently the only thing worse for these candidates than another terrorist attack would be a gay hero stopping it."

And these gay Log Cabin nuts continue to align themselves with the enemy.

It makes me ill, and it makes me feel like they shouldn't be able to enjoy the advances that myself and so many other gay Democrats are working so hard to bring to fruition.

Why should I bust my ass for these people who are more than happy to support candidates who want to keep LGBT's at the back of the bus?!?!?!?

:puke:

[SeattleGirl]

1. I don't understand how any gay person could be a Republican.

At least, not in this day and age. I really don't understand it.

[Kiouni]

3. Maybe they like being self-hating?

that's all I can come up with.

[SeattleGirl]

4. That is my thought too, Kiouni.

I mean, supporting a party (or group of people, political or not) who deign to take away your rights, who bash you, who think you are sick or perverted, etc., really says something about how you view yourself.

I am not gay, but as a woman, there is no way I could be a member of the Republican party, with their hatred of women, their hatred of a woman's right to choose, etc., I'd just as soon bash myself in the head with a 2x4 than be a Republican.

I've been through times in my life where I didn't think well of myself, but I never hated myself so much as to willingly throw myself to the wolves.

[cboy4]

5. Well said my friend!

:)

[SeattleGirl]

7. Thanks.

:)

[smtpgirl]

6. Agreed

[Tesha]

15. With some folks, money trumps everything else.

Republicans are good for the rich.

Tesha

[Marrah_G]

17. I don't get it either

I am Wiccan. I could never vote for anyone belonging to a party led by people who feel I am evil and need to be saved from myself due to their own bigotry and hatred. Since they feel close to the same about GBLTs I can't for the life of me see how they could join that party and still look in the mirror.

[jpgray]

2. Hell, just any people who support Republicans. Contempt for equal rights concerns us all

[xchrom]

8. agreed.

[charlie]

9. Andrew Sullivan used to fascinate me

He'd write his silly apologia for ShrubCo to his blog every day, day after day. And once in a while, the Republicans would get up to their Fear the Gays shenanigans, and it would send him into a blue funk that'd last days, posting anguished little How Could They Do This to Us missives. Eventually, he'd get his groove back and return to being the conservative's favorite gay housepet, chipper as ever. Until the next time. He's finally got a bit a sense into his coconut skull nowadays, but it took years, military debacles, massive deaths, economic wreckage, two election cycles of open gay bashing, and shredding the Bill of Rights to do it.

There's no explaining these people.

[SeattleGirl]

10. There certainly isn't.

I truly don't get how they could support a party that loves to kick them to the curb.

[cboy4]

11. I thought at one point Sullivan might be changing after I saw

him on Real Time with Bill Maher.

You're right, there is no explaining these people.

[mondo joe]

16. The explanation for Sullivan is simple: he's a contrarian.

He's not a log cabin republican. He's a B+ mind trying to come across as an A+ by coming up with provocative and/or perverse things to say based on his identity.

His logic is often tortured, and makes ridiculous leaps.

All that said, more recently he's been much more accurate, and funny, than he has in his whole career to this point. I've actually found his blog to be a daily must-read.

I'd like to think he's matured into a more confident - thus more honest - man, but it might just be his testosterone habit.

[cboy4]

18. Well, he may not be a Log Cabin Republican in the official

membership sense, but IMO, any gay person who aligns themselves with the right, and votes for Republicans is ridiculous.

The only way he can redeem himself in my eye is to say he's not voting for any of the GOP candidates in '08.

Otherwise, he's a traitor.

[salin]

12. greed, is all I can consider...

the belief that more $$ is to be made or saved under the GOP and that little things like rights, and even being recognized pale in comparison to the (misconception) idea that more $$ is to be made/saved by GOP.

[theHandpuppet]

19. Yep, it's all about the money... THEIR money

And they don't give a rat's ass about anything or anyone else.

[BOSSHOG]

13. I PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE QUESTION TO THEM

Would you like to see the thousands of Gay American Soldiers and Marines in Iraq discharged right now and brought home?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. log cabin republicans are just plain greedy. sometimes people will fork over dignity for money.

its shameful.

[LeftishBrit]

20. Well, I think that generally speaking...

for a gay person/ poor person/ member of an ethnic minority/ person with a disability/ non-Christian to vote for the Republican or similar party, is a bit like a turkey voting for the Christmas party!

But obviously there are people who do!

[cboy4]

21. I'll be a little more blunt.....it's like the a Jewish person supporting

the neo-Nazis.




That may be a little bit of an overstatement, but it's in the ballpark.

[nealmhughes]

22. Kant called it emotional and intellectual immaturity, unenlightenment, that is.

Where life is so much more simple by being told a paradigm for everything, including thought.
They are unenlightened, still cowering beneath the aegis of arcane desert tribal taboo, hoping that by demonstration of their "sameness" they can be accepted as partial members of the tribe, even though all evidence points to the perpetuation of their exo-status.
Intellectually and morally, in my view, gradualists are worse than non-actors. At least non-actors have no right to contribute to a debate, having abdicated that right by their silence and subsequent cowering to Big Daddy. On the other hand, gradualists allow the status quo which they claim to be flawed in extremis to be continued by their weasel words and hope for pie in the sky by and by. Well, the Log Cabinites have their piece of the pie, but it is rancid and fly blown.

[karlrschneider]

23. I guess it's a money thing. Black republicans baffle me too.

I guess the difference is the possibility of some political advantage...:eyes: