I wish Paris Hilton no harm. But she needs to go to jail.

[LuckyTheDog]

I could not help thinking that, in the end, this experience with real life (actual "real life," as opposed to the TV version of the "simple" life) could even be good for her.

People need some hardship in their lives. They need to go through things and come out stronger at the other end. And they sometimes need to be held accountable and feel the consequences of their own actions. Maturity comes from that. Redemption comes from that, too.

Hence, I don't think anyone is doing Hilton any favors by trying to win special treatment for her. Hilton should be kept safe. She should get any medical care that she needs. And she should be encourages to look upon her short prison stay as a wake-up call and a chance to take a long-hard look at herself and how she got there. I hope she has friends who will give her that encouragement.

But even if Hilton learns nothing from the jail time. Even if she goes right back to the clubs, her sentence serves one purpose: it shows that we are a nation of laws that mean something. And if that's the only result of this whole thing, I'll take it.

[mike_c]

1. look for "My Ordeal" by Paris Hilton and (someone else)...

...prominently displayed at major booksellers next year.

[Deja Q]

6. What's the German translation of "My Ordeal" anyway?

Oh yeah, it's "Mein Kampf". :wow:

[mike_c]

7. LOL-- oh damn, I totally spaced on that one....

:rofl:

Excellent catch!

[TheFarseer]

33. I always heard Mein Kampf translated to "My Struggle"

am I wrong or is it all the same?

[Swamp Rat]

9. Next year?

Hell, it's already written! :D

We should take bets on what will be the book cover colors (in addition to pink).

[mike_c]

11. dude, that is the BEST EVER graphic....

We are not worthy. That is freaking awesome!

[Swamp Rat]

12. LOL!

:D Thanks! :hi: I've been a busy bee lately. :evilgrin:

www.swamp-rat.com

Here's a quickie I did for an earlier thread:

[Gman]

2. I keep thinking about a child needing a timeout

the way she reportedly has been having "nuclear fits" while in jail. When you give a child a timeout, you tell them that when they stop screaming and crying, the timeout will begin. The child finally realizes that crying and screaming aren't going to get them out of timeout so they stop. Then the time begins. Maybe they should do the same with Ms. Hilton's sentence. It's now officially time for Ms. Hilton to grow up.

[mondo joe]

3. Unfortunately, at least according to the talking heads on MSNBC, she is being treated WORSE

than is customary. Normally she wouldn't have done jail time at all, and even if she did the Sheriff would have the authority to release her to home confinement.

:shrug:

[LiberalFighter]

20. Those twits on MSNBC skipped over why the judge imposed the sentence

Paris Hilton was originally sentenced to 3 years probation, mandatory attendance at an alcohol education program and fined $1,500.

Paris Hilton violated her probation.
Failed to enroll within 21 days in the alcohol education program.
Incurred several traffic violations after receiving probation.
Traffic violations: driving in darkness without headlights, driving 70mph in a 35mph zone, driving without a driver's license.
Failing to obey all laws and orders of the court.

Those twits namely Contessa and her cohorts should zip their lips.

[PADemD]

22. She also disrespected the Court by showing up late.

[LiberalFighter]

28. She has more important matters to care about.

[Deja Q]

4. If she learns nothing, then the next repeat offense means more jail time with less protection.

Jail is meant to reform. Not to have people apathetically go "Oh well; when all this is done I've paid my debt to society and I can do it all over again and it's okay because I know what to expect."

I say none of this out of malice. Nor my Lounge thread.

[MichiganVote]

5. She'll probably be out on appeal in a few days anyway. She's 26 years old for pete's sake.

Old enough to know better. Remember the saying, 'Get a life'?

[smtpgirl]

18. It happened to me when I was 20, "for pete's sake"

DUDE 26 is OLD ENOUGH!!!!!


She cried for her MOMMY!!

[elocs]

8. Why is it that we complain about the MSM covering these distracting fluff stories

and then here at DU we have thread after thread saying about the same things over and over again?

[Generic Brad]

27. Because we all enjoy a diversion

Bread and circuses, baby!

[uncle ray]

29. is a celebrity case illustrating how broken our criminal justice system is, fluff?

this isn't her freakin sex tape, it's about a celebrity CRYING to avoid punishment...and the sheriff taking the bait.

would you call if fluff if it were a bush twin or Chelsea Clinton?

[elocs]

31. It's fluff. It's tabloid Entertainment Tonight fare.

Try and justify it how you may, it is fluff.

[LuckyTheDog]

32. Absolutely

It's nost really about Hilton. It's about what is wrong with our society.

[Ilsa]

10. No malice for her here. I want her to learn to be a better citizen. nt

[OHdem10]

13. The Courts, the jail , the law are not in place to help

people grow up.

The fact is Hilton has already spent more time in Jail
than Gangbangers in LA who did exact same offenses as
Hilton.

We are a nation of laws; but laws are supposed to be exacted
as evenly as possible. She has been oversentenced because
she is Paris Hilton. The Media are after her like a
Scarlet Woman because they have never forgiven her for
that sex tape that got onto the Internet. This is not
fair either.

[LuckyTheDog]

17. She violated her probation

Nobody forced her to do that.

[uncle ray]

30. care to support your "facts"?

i've never heard of gangbangers being released from jail because they cried.

[gollygee]

14. She needs whatever anyone else in her situation would get

and I'm getting conflicting information about what that is.

[LuckyTheDog]

15. Me, too. and she should not be made an example

Her fame and wealth should mean nothing. But I do think people often do get jail time to violating probbation.

[smtpgirl]

16. I wish her no harm, but what she is did laughable

she made an ASS out of HERSELF

She just NEEDED TO SUCK IT UP AND FINISH IT!!

That's all, and if it was you, they would have expected the same.

Jail is not a holiday and wasn't meant to be. Community service was applicable, BUT SHE chose to violate her probation TWICE. She pissed off the judge don't you get it!!

That's why people are supportive, laughing, making jokes or just down right pissed off.

Don' do the crime if you can't do the time.

[terisan]

19. A case of Extended Adolescence-Luxury of Rich. nt

[BoneDaddy]

21. She is merely a representative of what you think she is

if you are pro poor...she is a despot
if you are pro women, she is an unfortunate victim of patriarchy

if you are real she is a stuck up snob who violated her probation and deserves her sentence

[KAZ]

23. She needs to be ignored. How can this board get in a ...

... tizzy over this? For God's sake, look at what the fuck is going on around you. If Paris is your way escaping the madness, fine. Take it to the lounge.

[earthlover]

25. I agree

I watched a movie on TV with my girl friend tonite, and at every commercial break they had a special report/news flash on Ms Hilton. Saying the same exact thing. And, big surprise here, being vague enough about some details as to tease us for future special reports in the future.

I thought to myself...how can the newscaster say that drivvel with a straight face? I was beginning to wonder if it was a parody, but it was real.

Yet here we are doing the same basic thing. Why the attention?

Maybe a bigger question is why do the media act the way we do? Because we eat it up!!!! Because we buy the tabloids on the newstand. Because we talk about it at the water fountain. Because we like gossip. And this sort of "news" is something that gives the news media ratings. And helps them sell their commercials.

Maybe we should just say no to all this foolishness?

[KAZ]

26. I know what your saying Earthlover, but I was at a party...

... tonight, and the dreaded "Paris" did not come up once. Iraq, gas prices, GMO crops, warming, they all were talked about at length. And these were not your typical wonks, like here on DU. So I just don't get the sound and fury on this forum.

[TahitiNut]

24. Paris is 26 years old. So were ...

Army Specialist Joseph A. Gilmore, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 19, 2007
Army Sergeant Anselmo Martinez III, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 18, 2007
Army 1st Lieutenant Colby J. Umbrell, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 3, 2007
Marine 1st Lieutenant Travis L. Manion, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 29, 2007
Army 1st Lieutenant Kevin Gaspers, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 23, 2007
Army Sergeant Mario K. De Leon, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 16, 2007
Army Reserve Sergeant Joshua A. Schmit, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 14, 2007
Navy Petty Officer 1st Class Joseph A. McSween, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 6, 2007
Army Staff Sergeant David A. Mejias, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 1, 2007
Army Sergeant Freeman L. Gardner Jr., Age 26, died in Iraq on March 22, 2007
Army Sergeant Wayne R. Cornell, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 20, 2007
Army Private 1st Class William N. Davis, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 17, 2007
Army Staff Sergeant Eric Ross, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 9, 2007
Army Sergeant James J. Regan, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 9, 2007
Marine Sergeant James Rodney Tijerina, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 7, 2007
Army Staff Sergeant Ronnie L. Sanders, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 3, 2007
Army Captain Kevin C. Landeck, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 2, 2007
Marine Reserve Corporal Mark D. Kidd, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 25, 2007
Army Staff Sergeant Michael J. Wiggins, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 23, 2007
Army Sergeant Sean P. Fennerty, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 20, 2007
Army Sergeant Thomas E. Vandling Jr., Age 26, died in Iraq on January 1, 2007
Army Sergeant Brennan C. Gibson, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 10, 2006
Army Staff Sergeant Kristofer R. Ciraso, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 7, 2006
Army Specialist Yari Mokri, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 6, 2006
Army Specialist Jordan W. Hess, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 5, 2006
Army Sergeant Jay R. Gauthreaux, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 4, 2006
Army Sergeant Keith E. Fiscus, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 2, 2006
Army Captain Rhett W. Schiller, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 16, 2006
Army Specialist Justin R. Garcia, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 14, 2006
Army Staff Sergeant Gregory W. G. McCoy, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 9, 2006
Army Sergeant Kraig D. Foyteck, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 30, 2006
Marine Reserve Lance Corporal Joshua M. Hines, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 15, 2006
Army Sergeant Mario Nelson, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 1, 2006
Army Sergeant John A. Carroll, Age 26, died in Iraq on September 6, 2006
Army Specialist Seth A. Hildreth, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 27, 2006
Army Private 1st Class William E. Thorne, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 24, 2006
Army Sergeant Steven P. Mennemeyer, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 9, 2006
Army Staff Sergeant Michael A Dickinson II, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 17, 2006
Army Sergeant Terry Lisk, Age 26, died in Iraq on June 26, 2006
Army Sergeant Lonnie Calvin Allen Jr., Age 26, died in Iraq on May 18, 2006
Army Specialist Armer N. Burkart, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 11, 2006
Army Specialist Aaron P. Latimer, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 9, 2006
Army Sergeant Robert W. Ehney, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 23, 2006
Army Specialist Kenneth D. Hess, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 11, 2006
Marine Corporal Adam O. Zanutto, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 6, 2006
Army National Guard Sergeant Joshua V. Youmans, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 1, 2006
Army Staff Sergeant Dwayne Peter R. Lewis, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 27, 2006
Marine Lance Corporal Michael S. Probst, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 14, 2006
Army Specialist Felipe J. Garcia Villareal, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 12, 2006
Army Private 1st Class Scott A. Messer, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 2, 2006
Army Sergeant David L. Herrera, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 28, 2006
Army Staff Sergeant Jerry M. "Michael" Durbin Jr., Age 26, died in Iraq on January 25, 2006
Army National Guard Specialist Michael I. Edwards, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 7, 2006
Army Specialist Lance S. Sage, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 27, 2005
Army Sergeant Adrian N. Orosco, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 9, 2005
Marine Corporal William G. Taylor, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 30, 2005
Army National Guard Sergeant Luis R. Reyes, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 18, 2005
Marine 2nd Lieutenant Donald R. McGlothin, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 16, 2005
Marine Lance Corporal Nickolas David Schiavoni, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 15, 2005
Army Staff Sergeant James E. Estep, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 15, 2005
Marine Lance Corporal Ryan J. Sorensen, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 6, 2005
Army Sergeant Lorenzo Ponce Ruiz, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 12, 2005
Army National Guard Specialist James T. Grijalva, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 12, 2005
Army National Guard Sergeant Sean B. Berry, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 3, 2005
Army Sergeant Franklin R. Vilorio, Age 26, died in Iraq on September 6, 2005
Army Sergeant Monta S. Ruth, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 31, 2005
Army National Guard Specialist Anthony N. Kalladeen, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 8, 2005
Marine Reserve Corporal David Kenneth J. Kreuter, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 3, 2005
Marine Reserve Sergeant Nathaniel S. Rock, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 1, 2005
Marine Reserve Lance Corporal Brian P. Montgomery, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 1, 2005
Marine Reserve Lance Corporal Roger D. Castleberry Jr., Age 26, died in Iraq on August 1, 2005
Army National Guard Sergeant Jonathon C. Haggin, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 30, 2005
Navy Petty Officer 3rd Class Travis L. Youngblood, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 21, 2005
Marine Lance Corporal Efrain Sanchez Jr., Age 26, died in Iraq on July 17, 2005
Army Specialist Ronnie D. Williams, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 17, 2005
Army Private 1st Class Eric Paul Woods, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 9, 2005
Army Specialist Christopher W. Dickison, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 5, 2005
Army Staff Sergeant Jeremy A. Brown, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 3, 2005
Army National Guard Sergeant Arnold Duplantier II, Age 26, died in Iraq on June 22, 2005
Army Corporal William A. Long, Age 26, died in Iraq on June 18, 2005
Marine Lance Corporal Erik R. Heldt, Age 26, died in Iraq on June 16, 2005
Marine Reserve Corporal Brad D. Squires, Age 26, died in Iraq on June 9, 2005
Army Staff Sergeant Justin L. Vasquez, Age 26, died in Iraq on June 5, 2005
Air Force Staff Sergeant Casey Crate, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 30, 2005
Air Force Captain Jeremy Fresques, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 30, 2005
Army Specialist Phillip N. Sayles, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 28, 2005
Army National Guard Specialist Bryan Edward Barron, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 23, 2005
Army Sergeant Kurt D. Schamberg, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 20, 2005
Army Private 1st Class Wyatt D. Eisenhauer, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 19, 2005
Army Staff Sergeant Samuel Tyrone Castle, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 11, 2005
Army Specialist Steven Ray Givens, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 8, 2005
Marine Reserve Lance Corporal Lance Tanner Graham, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 7, 2005
Army Sergeant Kenya A. Parker, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 30, 2005
Marine Private 1st Class Robert A. "Bobby" Guy, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 21, 2005
Army Specialist Rocky D. Payne, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 16, 2005
Army Corporal Stephen M. McGowan, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 4, 2005
Army National Guard Sergeant Nicholas J. Olivier, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 23, 2005
Army Specialist Clinton R. Gertson, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 19, 2005
Army Sergeant Chad W. Lake, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 13, 2005
Army Staff Sergeant Kristopher L. Shepherd, Age 26, died in Iraq on February 11, 2005
Army Private 1st Class Kevin M. Luna, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 27, 2005
Marine Staff Sergeant Brian D. Bland, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 26, 2005
Marine Corporal Richard A. Gilbert Jr., Age 26, died in Iraq on January 26, 2005
Marine 1st Lieutenant Travis J. Fuller, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 26, 2005
Army Staff Sergeant Joseph W. Stevens, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 24, 2005
Marine Sergeant Jayton D. Patterson, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 15, 2005
Army National Guard Sergeant Damien T. Ficek, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 30, 2004
Army Specialist Jose A. Rivera-Serrano, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 27, 2004
Army Specialist Cory Michael Hewitt, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 21, 2004
Army Sergeant Pablo A. Calderon, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 30, 2004
Marine Sergeant Christopher T. Heflin, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 16, 2004
Marine Lance Corporal Juan E. Segura, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 9, 2004
Army National Guard Specialist Quoc Binh Tran, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 7, 2004
Marine Corporal William I. Salazar, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 15, 2004
Army Specialist Christopher A. Merville, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 12, 2004
Army 1st Lieutenant Tyler Hall Brown, Age 26, died in Iraq on September 14, 2004
Army National Guard Staff Sergeant David J. Weisenburg, Age 26, died in Iraq on September 13, 2004
Army National Guard Sergeant Shawna M. Morrison, Age 26, died in Iraq on September 5, 2004
Army Staff Sergeant Aaron N. Holleyman, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 30, 2004
Army Private 1st Class Henry C. Risner, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 18, 2004
Marine Staff Sergeant John R. Howard, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 11, 2004
Marine Sergeant Juan Calderon Jr., Age 26, died in Iraq on August 2, 2004
Army Specialist Dana N. Wilson, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 11, 2004
Army National Guard Sergeant Jeremy J. Fischer, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 11, 2004
Army National Guard Specialist Ryan E. Doltz, Age 26, died in Iraq on June 5, 2004
Army National Guard Specialist Christopher M. Duffy, Age 26, died in Iraq on June 4, 2004
Army 1st Lieutenant Kenneth Michael Ballard, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 30, 2004
Army National Guard Specialist Jeffrey R. Shaver, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 12, 2004
Marine Private 1st Class Eric A. Ayon, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 9, 2004
Army Staff Sergeant Toby W. Mallet, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 9, 2004
Marine Private 1st Class Christopher Ramos, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 5, 2004
Army Specialist Christopher K. Hill, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 11, 2004
Army Sergeant Cory R. Mracek, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 27, 2004
Army Sergeant Edmond Lee Randle Jr., Age 26, died in Iraq on January 17, 2004
Army Staff Sergeant Roland L. Castro, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 16, 2004
Army Specialist Christopher A. Golby, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 8, 2004
Army Specialist Marc S. Seiden, Age 26, died in Iraq on January 2, 2004
Army Captain Christopher F. Soelzer, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 24, 2003
Army Specialist Christopher J. Holland, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 17, 2003
Army Sergeant Jarrod W. Black, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 12, 2003
Army Specialist Christopher Jude Rivera Wesley, Age 26, died in Iraq on December 8, 2003
Army Staff Sergeant Dale A. Panchot, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 17, 2003
Army Specialist John R. Sullivan, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 15, 2003
Army Sergeant John W. Russell, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 15, 2003
Army Sergeant Timothy L. Hayslett, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 15, 2003
Army Specialist Genaro Acosta, Age 26, died in Iraq on November 11, 2003
Army Sergeant Michael Paul Barrera, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 28, 2003
Army Staff Sergeant Jamie L. Huggins, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 26, 2003
Army Specialist Jose L. Mora, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 24, 2003
Army Specialist James E. Powell, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 12, 2003
Army Staff Sergeant Christopher W. Swisher, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 9, 2003
Army Specialist Joseph C. Norquist, Age 26, died in Iraq on October 9, 2003
Army Sergeant Andrew Joseph Baddick, Age 26, died in Iraq on September 29, 2003
Army Reserve Sergeant David Travis Friedrich, Age 26, died in Iraq on September 20, 2003
Army Sergeant Anthony O. Thompson, Age 26, died in Iraq on September 18, 2003
Army Specialist Craig S. Ivory, Age 26, died in Iraq on August 17, 2003
Navy Petty Officer 3rd Class David J. Moreno, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 17, 2003
Army Sergeant Melissa Valles, Age 26, died in Iraq on July 9, 2003
Army Sergeant Travis L. Burkhardt, Age 26, died in Iraq on June 6, 2003
Army Corporal Richard P. Carl, Age 26, died in Iraq on May 9, 2003
Army 1st Lieutenant Osbaldo Orozco, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 25, 2003
Marine Staff Sergeant Riayan Augusto Tejeda, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 11, 2003
Marine Lance Corporal Brian Edward Anderson, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 2, 2003
Army Sergeant Michael Francis Pedersen, Age 26, died in Iraq on April 2, 2003
Marine Sergeant Fernando Padilla-Ramirez, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 28, 2003
Marine Lance Corporal David Keith Fribley, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 23, 2003
Marine Lance Corporal Eric James Orlowski, Age 26, died in Iraq on March 22, 2003