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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:05 AM
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Was Bush too hung over to work at G8 Summit
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 08:09 AM by EV_Ares
The AP has a story online with the title “Illness Sidelines Bush at G8 Summit,” running alongside a photo of Pres. Bush relaxing yesterday with an amber-colored German beverage. As is usual with our liberal media, we are left to put two and two together and draw our own conclusions, so here goes:

The president was already dressed when he began feeling ill in the morning, White House counselor Dan Bartlett said. He said doctors are keeping an eye on him but that Bush’s illness — whether a stomach virus, a light touch of food poisoning or something else — is “not serious.” He stayed in bed to try to rest and recuperate, missing the morning session of the summit being held here of eight industrialized democracies. Hey, it’s happened to the best of us — except most of us don’t officially claim to have been alcohol-free for the past 20 years old when we are afflicted by a hangover.


At last year’s G8, Bush went on a tear, behaving like he was at a frat party. He was caught on tape talking shit (literally) around a mouthful of food about the Syrians with Britain’s Prime Minister Tony Blair. He gave the German leader Angela Merkel a bizarre surprise back rub — and he informed the leader of China that he was aware that China and Russia were both big countries.

But in 1992, six years later, he was caught on tape quite drunk at a wedding. (See sidebar.) And there have been rumors lately that the First Lady has decamped on occasion to local hotels, and that she plans to divorce him after he leaves office. There is speculation that Bush’s return to boozing has driven a wedge between them. Even if there was video of Bush puking in the bushes in Germany yesterday, the White House would never admit that the president got drunk and then was sidelined from the conference today because he over-indulged. It’s a moot point in any case because even if the media types who cover the president saw evidence that he’d been drinking, they would not dare to ask if it were true.

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/06/08/is-bush-too-hung-over-to-work-at-g8/



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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:07 AM
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1. The beer bottle on the table next to Bush is non-alcoholic beer - what's in the glass is
anyones guess.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 03:54 PM
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30. I don't see a bottle. Is there another picture?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:10 AM
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2. It's really bad form to speculate about stuff like that. nt
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:28 AM
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5. Not when the subject of the speculation is a person who stole the
office with vote fraud in two elections, has taken us into a war for oil based on lies, and has undermined all aspects of life in what was once the greatest nation in the world.

He knowingly displayed his behavior outdoors for the world to see and disgraced a country he "chose" to represent as a selected leader.




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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:58 AM
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9. And the Clintons are drug-running murderers who throw lamps at each other.
It's best for everyone not to get invovled in speculation like that.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:56 PM
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31. You're exhibiting really really bad taste
by trying to shut down free speech.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:10 AM
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33. It's not politically prudent for us to inject such speculation into political debates.
No, this isn't about freedom of speech.

That trump card doesn't work here.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:12 AM
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13. I don't care if it's bad form...time for us to fight
like the freepers would fight if Clinton was sidelined from a meeting. Shoot, they'd say he was high or in bed with a bimbo or something.

Niceness got us George W Bush.

Fightin' time is here!
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janetle Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:08 PM
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24. I agree
If Bush is being compromised because of his alcoholism (I know I know, he's compromised, period) and Cheney is hanging on to life by a defib thread, we, as Americans, should know and have the right to demand fully functioning leaders.

Come on MSM--dig in.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:22 AM
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14. Pray tell...
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 10:26 AM by hlthe2b
WHY?


Give me a break.... There are major outcomes that we all will face both directly and indirectly when the unchecked, unsupervised Bush* mouths off sober, much less drunk. Witness his bombastic comments to Putin, for one.

How, pray tell, is it "bad form" to speculate about that?! :wtf:

There is no way in the world that Bush* possible drunken behavior equates to speculation about the status of the Clinton's marriage or possible marital fights. The first could land all of us in very deep Kimchee; the latter is mere fodder for RW gossip mills.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:43 AM
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17. I agree -- he is indeed wearing the most spectacular vestaments -- anyone who says otherwise
is disrespecting the throne.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:55 PM
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28. How "good form" is it to publicly point out what you believe is another's "bad form"?
Oops, that may've been bad form of me.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:22 AM
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3. Keith Olbermann debunked (sort of) the notion that * was
drinking an alcoholic beverage, last evening, by pointing out that the bottle, in a prominent position on *'s right, was a non-alcoholic brand. As someone intimately familiar with the subterfuge surrounding secret imbibing, I can only assume that this represents proof of nothing in particular.

In light of the fact that * is a proven liar and seems to lie by preference rather than necessity, the speculation surrounding his temporary illness is justified.

There is simply no way that we can reasonably do more than speculate and add that lack of positiveness to the already backbreaking load of insecurity that represents the thing that we do not need in Americas shaky halls of government.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:04 PM
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22. having alcoholics in my family, i buy it even less that he has non alcoholic next to him
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 12:05 PM by seabeyond
for me the one that has truly moved from beer would not have the non alcoholic form cause it feeds the craving. the psychological addiction need/want of booze. and the denigrates the accomplishment of getting off booze. the reformed drinker has no problem holding a glass of club soda in social events. not the need to "appear" to drink.

the boozer that tries to convince all he s o longer drinker will ut the non alcholic beer there to convince people they are not drinking, as they get sloshed.

dont buy it for a minute.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:46 PM
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27. And ThenThere's This !!!
The Dangers of Drinking NA Beverages

<snip>

They call it "near beer" and it may be nearer than you think.

Those trying to abstain from alcohol are warned against the use of non-alcoholic beer, now there may be scientific evidence to support the admonition. Recently in a topic discussion in our Alcoholism Forum, a visitor was given many different reasons why others had decided not to try so-called non-alcoholic beer, if they wanted to remain sober. Avoiding the temptation was the reason most often offered.

Other than the fact that all "NA" beer does contain a small amount of alcohol, there is now a new study out that seems to support the theory that it can cause a relapse for recovering alcoholics.

In the November issue of the Journal Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research, a team of California scientists report that smell may be enough to trigger cravings and a subsequent relapse among certain alcoholics.

In their laboratory experiments, rats were trained to self-administer alcohol or a bitter, white substance called quinine when they smelled either orange or banana. The smell of banana was used when the rats consumed alcohol, while the smell of orange was presented to them when the rats tasted quinine. Both alcohol and the anticipation of alcohol may raise levels of a brain chemical called dopamine, which plays a role in feelings of elation and pleasure, according to the investigators. The researchers found increases in dopamine in the rats' brains before and after smelling these "alcohol-related cues."

One visitor to our Forum said her family member seemed to develop the same attitudes and behavior while drinking NA Beer as he used to do when he was drinking the real stuff. This finding could help explain that phenomenon.

<snip>

More here: http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/relapse/a/aa000104a.htm

Yes, we have no bananas...

:shrug:



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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:24 AM
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4. I could have been a bleeding ulcer too
I can think of hundreds of thousands of reasons the little man might have a tummy ache.
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:55 AM
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6. maybe it was food poisoning....China ? nm
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:04 AM
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8. I don't know. Was Junior eating cat food?
?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:57 AM
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7. 25 OZ. Flu? n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:06 AM
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10. Explains a lot. Genoa G8 in June 2001 Monkey forgot bin Laden jet hijack threat.
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 11:02 AM by Octafish
He was probably drinking then, too.

At the Genoa G8 in June 2001, Bush forgot that bin Laden was threatening to crash airplanes into him. That's what the press reported at the time.

Plot to assassinate Bush – reports

Ashcroft Flying High

Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

Genoa braces for G8 summit

Whether criminally negligent or just plain treasonous, the little turd from Crawford and his cronies knew all about "bin Laden determine to strike in U.S."

Bush is the worst American. Ever.

EDIT: for usability.
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:08 AM
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11. There was also the first debate in 2004...
OMG he looked/acted/sounded absolutely hammered.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:10 AM
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12. Had CLINTON missed a meeting due to illness
you know the press would have been all over with the insinuations, especially if there were pics of him drinking!
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:49 AM
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18. Yup
It's funny how those double standards work.
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janetle Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:58 AM
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21. Yes, or they would have implied Clinton was with someone.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:37 AM
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15. K&R(no.5) The non-alcohol beer in the news photo could have been consumed
to cover the malt liquor on his breath from 40s he was chugging offstage!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:41 AM
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16. NOT ONE person at the G8 likes Georgie Pissypants -- so he drowned his sorrows
The only "asset" that W has is his glad-handling ability. Imagine how it must feel to be THE UNPOPULAR ONE!!!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:51 AM
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19. I was a home Brewer for many years
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 11:52 AM by symbolman
and I can tell you that according to what I know, after making everything from Goat Scrotum Ale to Champagne Cherry Stout, that the beer in that glass is NOT the beer that was in that Bottle.

It's the wrong color for one thing, and the head on the beer in the glass is NOT the kind of head you'd get if you poured from that bottle of cat piss.

The bottle is for SHOW, and placed just so, for the Photogs, and once again, the little slimeball is "putting one over" on the average american, "Hyuk, hyuk, hyuk.." as he would say..

It's a LIE, a Propaganda Prop, and that POS is a DRUNK if I've ever seen one, and I've seen hundreds if not thousands of them.

No joke, the asshole was hungover, and they are rubbing it in our faces, as usual. THey take Great delight in it.

There's another photo of him draining the glass, and the "webbing" of the spent head is also "wrong" for that kind of Near Beer..
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:06 PM
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23. Potemkin Pilsner. It is just a tad too artful isn't it? nt
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:16 PM
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25. Perfect for the
Potemkin Village Idiot :)
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:34 PM
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29. He looks drunk to me.
From
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=460708&in_page_id=1811&ito=1490
Bush taken ill hours after bonding with Blair over a beer



the nearby bottle is Buckler, .5% alcohol

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/06/09/is-dubya-one-over-the-g8----89520-19269572/
Is Dubya one over the G8?

"... But aides insisted that the president had only been drinking a Dutch non-alcoholic lager called Buckler. ..."

more photos

http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?ei=UTF-8&p=bush+beer&c=&fr=&c=images&view=list

These beers seem to differ in color.

http://beernexus.com/flashnews8.html
Beer News EXTRA !
"Non-alcoholic Buckler beer packs wallop. Buckler Beer is supposed
to have less than 0.5% alcohol by volume but that was not the case for more
than 1 million bottles that have been recalled in Japan for far exceeding that limit.
During the production process, insufficient heating reportedly led to beers
frementing in bottles, boosting the alcohol content. Most of the bottles were
produced by Heineken Japan and Kirin Brewery."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckler_(beer)
In 2004 Heineken called back 23,000 hectolitres of Buckler in Estonia, Finland, Japan, Latvia, Puerto Rico, and the United States, because it had an alcohol percentage of 1.5% instead of the maximum 0.5%. Part of the pasteurization process failed in a brewery in 's-Hertogenbosch.







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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:54 AM
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20. The video is a MUST WATCH -- don't miss it
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:21 PM
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32. That IS a MUST WATCH.
Thank you, Steve_DeShazer.

Monkey eats with his mouth open and talks down to Tony the Poodle, totally unaware they're being taped.

In the rest of the session they mock the Syrian President as "honey."

Hah! What vulgar morons.



BUSH AND BLAIR CHAT IN BROADCAST BLUNDER

Rosa Prince, Political Correspondent In St Petersburg 18/07/2006
BBC Have your say: News forum

PRESIDENT Bush was yesterday taped privately telling Tony Blair that Syria should tell Hizbollah to "stop doing this sh*t" to resolve the Lebanon crisis, in a blunder that was broadcast round the world.

Standing at the president's shoulder like a trusted counsellor, Mr Blair was heard over a live microphone dutifully offering his help to ease tensions.

In a move which will enrage the Arab world the two men also mocked Syrian leader Bashar Assad as a "honey" and "sweet" before Mr Blair suddenly spotted the microphone.

Covering it with his hand, he said "Is this...this isn't live, is it?" The two leaders immediately stopped talking and the unprecedented glimpse into the world of power politics ended.

CONTINUED...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17400765&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=bush-and-blair-chat-in-broadcast-blunder-name_page.html



Why would they say something like that?



Anybody? Anybody?
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:34 PM
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26. Bush beer
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