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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:08 AM
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LTTEs-Stars and Stripes
http://stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=46508

America: empire or republic?

A friend of mine claims that Americans don’t come from that big place called “America,” but from a planet he calls Zog. I told him he was crazy. And yet, sometimes I wonder. Take, for example, the fact that some Americans are talking about “taking back America.” But surely, to “retake” something, you first have to know what you have lost.

The letters page of Stars and Stripes is full of writers screaming at fellow Americans they call “liberals.” My friend claims that this is impossible: He has information from an informant from Zog itself that the last real liberal died in 1949.

He claims that Zog is actually being controlled by creatures called Neoconis from another planet. These Neoconis have taken control of the capital, they are supported by the Zogian media (nothing more than seamless propaganda), a naïve electorate, both political parties, the corporate conglomerates, which include the “military industrial complex,” and a strange-looking creature called Bill O’Reilly.

My friend claims that were once proud of something they called the “Constitution,” the “Bill of Rights” and the “republic,” created by a group of wise men who lived long ago. But he claims that these are nothing more than a fading memory — yellowing paper under glass. What they called a “republic” has been replaced by an empire. And it’s the non-acceptance or denial of this empire among the Zogians, their media and politicians especially, that has caused confusion, bitterness and suffering.

My friend is quite adamant about this. He says they must decide: either for a republic or an empire, they can’t have both.

Mark L. Warren
Wiesbaden, Germany

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Liberals just want to be heard

Regarding the May 30 letter “Liberals wish to silence others”: Again we are reminded by a narrow-minded conservative that liberals are lower than pond scum and don’t deserve to speak out on touchy subjects such as the present administration’s bluff and blunder.

The problem is the letter writer and his ilk have gotten us entrenched in a war nobody wants or needs and in which we cannot prevail. Our poor soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen are suffering because of the president’s ineptness in dealing with the facts: 1) there weren’t weapons of mass destruction and 2) Saddam Hussein had better control of Iraq than we do and should have been left alone but closely monitored — a cheaper and more effective means of control than the billions of dollars we have squandered so far in the Middle East.

Paraphrasing Winston Churchill, “Iraq is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.” Churchill, by the way, was also a Liberal.

Senior Master Sgt. George Sterpka (retired)
Shaw Air Force Base, S.C.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:44 AM
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1. "Mark Warren" sounds like a right-wing anti-Semite.
His reference to "Zog" could only be abbreviation for "Zionist-occupied government." The "Zog" reference is popular among far right and neo-Nazi organizations. I could not support someone using such a reference for that reason alone, but on top of that the premises of such a conception are fundamentally incorrect.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:46 AM
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2. I had no idea that Zog referenced anything except someone's
fertile imagination.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:48 AM
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3. Yeah, I was surprised they printed it.
There's a danger with some of these far right types - they periodically make efforts to infiltrate progressive movements to inject their core racist ideas. They are "anti-globalization" and "anti-war" insofar as they oppose the existing social order, but their prescription is for something far worse.
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 05:35 PM
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4. it probably is made-up by him
It's one of those easy to construct words when you're making up something for fun. Whenever I'm doing something fictional, I google the word to make sure it doesn't exist. I was all pleased to have Xoshan for a story I was working on only to find out it's an existing African language. I bet Rush was pissed when they found out the Temple of Syrinx actually refers to a part of a bird's anatomy.
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