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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 07:58 PM
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How do you cross your legs, "Texan style?"
Bush not only responded to the Pope, "Yes, Sir," instead of "Your holiness," but he crossed his legs, "Texan style."

I'm afraid to ask...
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 07:59 PM
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1. Ankle rests on the opposite knee
:)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:01 PM
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3. giving room to let your bits dangle and air out.
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 08:02 PM by uppityperson
Not sure why they called it "Texan" style though except mrbush bought a house in Texas.

Edited to add, I got it. Is it because in Texas your bits are too big, like everything else there, and you need more room for them to air?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:03 PM
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4. I think we've been enabling Texas for too long.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:42 PM
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50. I for one, and sick of the Bush/Texas mytique.
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 01:45 PM by sparosnare
I live here in Texas, and NONE of the people I associate with act like morons or do what he does. It's all stuff dreamed up by Rove.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:17 PM
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6. That's right...
I am from Texas, you know.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:19 PM
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7. useless without a picture
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Truthiness Inspector Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:51 PM
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19. LOL! n/t
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:09 PM
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21. Please don't make me think about Bush's dangling bits.
:puke:
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:25 PM
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47. personally I find it a mental strain to think about things measured in nanometers (n/t)
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nadine_mn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 03:33 AM
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64. Oh the humanity - mental image of Bush's bits
dangling. 1st the flight suit codpiece now a freely hanging nutsack...

We need universal health care just to pay for the mental flossing I am gonna need to get that image out

:puke:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:01 PM
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2. Crossed them wide -- maximal crotch exposure...
Instead of a demure cross with thighs together.

:shrug:
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:10 PM
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5. As a young lad growing up in Texas...
I learned to cross my legs with my ankle on my thigh and also to look at my finger nails with my fingers bent. If you go to the wrong bars, you could get into trouble. I also emulated the way John Wayne walked and didn't swing my arms like an ape. Or strut like a rooster. Or bob my head like a turkey.

I tried cowboy boots. They were comfortable but cut into my calves. Cowboy hats are fine but they get in the way when you drive.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:44 PM
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8. Don't hunker down when you're wearing your spurs, either.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:48 PM
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9. Spurs? Shoot! That's another issue.
SM or gay. Rodeo cowboys wear small spurs. You don't need them to ride a horse.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:05 PM
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11. Real working kaboys around here wear spurs.
And if you saw them in their work clothes you would know that they actually work cows for a living. I see them every morning at the store were I get a morning cup of coffee. Their rigs parked outside, a pickup with a gooseneck trailer hitched to it and one or two horses saddled up and the dogs. And I don't think any of these guys spend much time chopping cedar like "Your Man' in Crawford.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:02 PM
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16. Hee hee hee! Well said.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:01 PM
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15. I"ve ridden thousands of miles with spurs on...
The horses tend to pay attention just a little bit better hearing then jingle.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:08 PM
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20. Which begs a question
Would the pope pay more attention to someone speaking if he heard those spurs a jingling?
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:16 PM
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22. I don't know about the Pope, but my horses did.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:49 PM
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10. throw your part over your left shoulder as you sit cross legged
I thought everyone knew that:evilgrin:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:08 PM
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12. I'd like to know, just to make sure I never do it.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:09 PM
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13. After you stick your head up your ass, the rest comes naturally.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:59 PM
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14. It's informal and rude. And it makes someone have to look at the bottom of your shoe. BAD.
Someone show him a photograph of the Big Three conferences during WWII. Even Uncle Joe didn't sit like that.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:02 AM
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36. Bush has no "couth" as they say....
If you notice, he either sits as described above, or with his legs splayed out like he's trying to give everyone an eyeful of his humongous 'nads. There's a pic of him with Kofi Anan where he's sitting like that. Cripes! Makes me sick!

I think your comment about making someone have to look at the bottom of your shoe says it all. Everything Bush does is calculated to be a put-down, from his disgusting little nicknames to this latest gaff. He does it because, down deep, he knows what a worthless POS he really is. x(

And, personally, I think the Pope lives in some alternate reality, but if I were meeting with him I'd observe the protocol. Just another way that Bush is an embarrassment to this nation! :(

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:09 AM
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37. A gentleman does not sit with his legs splayed wide open for a multitude of reasons.
There are not only the 'nad issues, but it's a power play to take up more space. How many times on the subway or on a bench do you see men taking up a third of the space of the people next to them by sitting that way?

AND, in many cultures, the bottoms of your feet are the least holy part of your body - your head being the holiest part - and should not be put in someone's face.

Crossing your legs like that further increases the chances of wiping the sole of your shoe on the person next to you.

It's so rude on so many fronts it's hard to list them all.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:29 AM
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44. Uh, pardon me, but, BULL CRAP!
It's to avoid unintentional pain.
If a man crosses his knees (although many do), if his "delicates" don't get pinched between his thighs they often will be shifted lower. This increases the possibility of them getting pinched if he leans forward or wen he starts to uncross them. It's not so bad if you are sitting in a padded chair, but if you are sitting in a hard wooden or metal chair...
Well, how rude would it be to suddenly jump up grabbing your crotch doubled-over and screaming in pain?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 03:08 PM
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51. Your daddy should have taught you to sit. Or you need different underwear. nt
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:24 PM
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55. My Daddy DID teach me how to sit and cross my legs.
And that is what he taught me.
Obviously you don't have that problem, for whatever reason. So don't lecture the rest of us on something you obviously know nothing about. It makes you sound like a Conservative.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:04 PM
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17. I'm a Texan...Bush is NOT.
Bush was born in Connecticut.
I guess he was Connecticut sitting.
Lee
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:47 PM
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18. Texas
I'm sick of Texas. I hate Tom Delay. I lived in Houston and it sucks. I hate the Dallas Cowboys.
I hate anything conected to Texas. I hate the Shrub and his phony accent. I hate Right Wing ignorant Assholes.
(Texas is the armpit of the universe). Sorry I had to cloak my true feelings.....
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:28 PM
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24. We Texans don't care for folks with your attitude about Texas, either!
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:46 PM
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27. Screwing a lot of people
I guess you hate Ann Richards and Jim Hightower and Molly Ivins and me and many other good Texans on this forum. I live in Austin and Austin has, ALWAYS AND WITHOUT FAIL, carried the Democrat in the presidential election. Austin is also incredibly beautiful. The entire state is beautiful and diverse and it's really LIBERAL of you to judge us all by the LESS THAN 50% who vote Republican in our state.

...but you know the door and don't let it hit your posterior end on the way out. A lot of cool stuff in Houston too and all the other cities, towns and beautiful countryside, from mountains and Big Bend to the Gulf... Your narrow-minded, bigoted and judgmental attitude makes you NOT LIBERAL AT ALL. Judging millions and millions of people like that. You should be ashamed.
Lee
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:51 AM
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29. Now, now.
There's a lot of Texan ways which the Bush Administration has relied on to "get his way," in the White House. Those things, we can hate. I'm talking about the winner take all attitude that you find with you agrarian rights and, of course, the rampant cronyism. Yes, I understand that other states can do the same, but if Texas likes to brag that they're bigger in everything else, then they should also be prepared to take the bad with the good.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:59 AM
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35. I see your point
I've lived in quite a few states and traveled to nearly all of them and while some were better than others, I found the reception one receives from the average native Texans is particularly obnoxious.

Texans notice your accent right away and some interpret as a signal to charge you higher prices, rip you off, or just plain lie to you. We used to joke that the state motto was "caveat emptor" - Let the Buyer Beware.

They also get very nosy and judgmental about religious beliefs. I've never lived in a place where people were so persistent in trying to discern your religious beliefs (though I've heard Utah is also pretty bad). People will ask you when you're standing in line at the grocery store. Growing up in the Midwest, it was always considered impolite to ask people their religious affiliation or other personal questions. Racism, while not favored by many is still tolerated. I recall some the Yankees in our office asking the native Texans about the proper way to hang the state flag - we were in a high rise building and noticed the differences looking at lower buildings. The answer, with a wry smile, "white on top, colored on the bottom".

The general message you get from many of them is that they don't mind you living in their state as long as you give them a lot of money. And if you don't think they're the greatest state and greatest people in the world, you should just move elsewhere. I did, at the earliest opportunity because I didn't want to raise children in that environment. I've only been back once for a medical conference.

I don't judge the entire state the same way - there are great parts of the state and I made a lot friends with native Texans when I lived there, so I'm loathe to judge everyone in the state. But the overall culture there is sad and quite backwards. Maybe its changed some since I lived there in the 1980's.



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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:35 AM
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46. 2,832,704 Texans Voted For John Kerry In 2004

I was one of them.

Take your ignorant, blanket condemnations of my home state and shove them somewhere tender.......
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:29 PM
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25. Thank you, from another Texan.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 01:11 AM
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59. Pssst....
Us Nutmegers are trying to bury that fact down there with Dick Cheney's energy meeting.

Except during elections, of course!

:-)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:27 PM
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23. prep school, Ivy League gentlemen are taught..
....to sit with their legs aligned, crossed at the knees.

I notice that Condi Rice crosses her legs like a truck driver would. Shameful, in her position as Madame Secretary of State, because her skirts are generally too short as well.

Example:

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:32 AM
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30. Rice's crossing here would be fine, but the skirt is FAR too short. Often is. nt
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 12:50 AM
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58. a lady's legs should be crossed at the ankle
Not at the knee. Or even uncrossed is acceptable a la Queen Elizabeth.

Look at this photo of first ladies. Mrs. Ford and Mrs. Carter are crossed at the ankle. Mrs. Nixon and Mrs. Johnson are uncrossed. All very proper.

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pork medley Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 03:21 AM
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62. you know, all this shit about "ladies" and "gentlemen" sounds totally classist
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 03:23 AM by batwing
excuse me while i BARF :O
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 03:30 AM
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63. Thank you. And when did DU become the Emily Post forum?
I'm honestly not worried about how Dr Rice crosses her knees. I'm worried about her fucking up relations with long standing allies.

She could cross her ankles behind Tony Blair's neck if it kept the country safe and at peace. This whole thread is a waste of electrons.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 11:21 AM
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67. too bad
There are people whose public position in life requires them to follow certain gentlemanly or lady-like protocol in manner and dress. All the cultures of the world have these "rules" that require adherence. And the rules are just as certain for the "cowboy" class as they are for the "gentleman" class. It took a lot of work for George W. Bush to learn to pass as a Texas cowboy.

Even the most humble and egalitarian society expects its leadership to display a particular code of manners.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:30 PM
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26. texan style
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:52 PM
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28. Well, first you pick one leg up...
... then you send a mentally retarded man to the electric chair.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:38 AM
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33. here's a few
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 08:39 AM by warrior1
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 03:10 PM
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52. #1 is tacky, #2 is halfway rude, wholeway if the man is Middle Eastern. #3 is weird. nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:34 AM
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31. There is no such thing; it's just more Bush crudeness.
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 08:35 AM by WinkyDink
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:37 AM
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32. you put your left leg in, you pull your left leg out
you put your left leg in and you move it all about.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:52 AM
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34. ankles round ears to show him he's "holey" too.
sorry.

:hide:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:09 AM
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38. I was thinking
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 09:09 AM by alfredo
like this?

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:16 AM
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39. Like this?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:27 AM
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40. Here's how 'gentlemen' sit - even Stalin sits better than Bush!
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 09:29 AM by MookieWilson
Damn, the Wikipedia link doesn't work.

But FDR, Churchill and even Stalin sat more graciously than Bush did yesterday.

Check out this one of FDR, MacKenzie Kind and Churchill:

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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:33 AM
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41. I sit that way
Raised in Texas.

I always wondered why on television every man sat with their leg slightly crossed over their knee (I was raised to think that is how ladies sit....with their leg resting on the knee). I always thought it was because of some kind of FCC regulation about crotches and eye-level cameras.

Now I find out that many think I am an ignorant, uncooth Texan because of the way I sit....interesting, but I'm not changing.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:33 PM
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48. I wonder how many people next to you, you've wiped off the sole of your shoe on....it's rude.
AND it crowds the people around you. Imagine if everybody sat like that.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:18 AM
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65. Where I come from, everyone DOES sit like that (every male, anyways)
and know what? No one has a hissy fit.

And I do not touch ANYONE. I'm particular about touching.

So you are wrong on all counts with your sight-unseen judgements.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:46 PM
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56. Same thing for me
I recall being told by some of my friends in fourth grade not to cross my legs "like a woman" (the idea behind it being "like a woman" being that you have to keep your legs close together to avoid exposing anything under your skirt, I guess) and instructed on the "right" way to cross my legs. Occasionally, I'll become uncomfortable after crossing my legs "Texas-style" for too long (though I've never heard it called that until this article) and want to cross them the other way but the little nine-year-old voice in my head whispers to me that I shouldn't do that and so I don't. Stupid, but old habits die hard, I guess. The other way can cause some unwanted pinching, anyway, as another poster mentioned.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:13 PM
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57. "Sitting like a lady" is very uncomfortable, especially now that furniture is getting taller....
it's a real problem.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:48 AM
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42. is this it?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:58 AM
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43. I think that's it.
It doesn't look that bad, but then again, I'm not a stickler for ceremonial affectations.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:20 AM
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66. That's not it,
That's the "right" way to sit.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:29 AM
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45. I think that descriptor was pretty insulting to Texas
Basically, Bush was ignorant, rude, uncultured, and ill-mannered - and the caption writer decided to sum that up as "Texan."
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:39 PM
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49. Didnt know that was a Texas thing.
No wonder I sit that way. LOL.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 03:43 PM
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53. I just assumed it was "fat-boy" style
Maybe if I lost 30 lb, I could sit like FDR in that picture.

Until then, I'll sit more like GWB.

That's ok though, I probably won't have a private audience with the pope.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 03:47 PM
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54. Yeah I'm with you there, lol
If I sat with properly crossed legs I'd risk not being able to uncross them. Best to keep my chubby feet on the ground I suppose :P
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 01:25 AM
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60. Ha! Bush Elder and Clinton -- NON-Texas style
This is the perfect gentlemanly pose.

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qdemn7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 02:37 AM
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61. Considering
How many people around here are against organized religion, especially the Catholic Church, why does it make a fucking bit of difference what Bush did when he met the Pope?
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