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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:06 PM
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Doubts about Monkeyman's military service.
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 07:17 PM by Sapphire Blue
Have at it. I'm leaving this thread.


{{{Edited to add (for clarification): I posted another thread about the doubts/questions regarding Monkeyman's death. Several posters came to that thread, debating the facts regarding Monkeyman's military service. Since that was not the subject of my OP in the other thread, those posters are welcome to have their debate here. I will not take part in it.

"The truth about Monkeyman/Dale is that he was a loving person; we were fortunate to be a part of his life." - SB}}}

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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:09 PM
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1. And the casual reader has the feeling you've posted outside of some other thread. . .
and that your comment might make better sense seen in context.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:21 PM
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3. See edit.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:25 PM
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5. Ah. . .I thought it might be something akin to this. . .
your original post seemed too curt to be a standalone post.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:25 PM
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6. Here is a brief bit...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1082437&mesg_id=1082437

#99 (Sapphire Blue)If anyone wishes to dispute his military record, I would really appreciate their taking it elsewhere; that is not what my OP is about, nor is it the purpose for this thread. People were questioning his death, for God's sake.

"The truth about Monkeyman/Dale is that he was a loving person; we were fortunate to be a part of his life."

The truth.



#101 (post by me) That is a good idea. We've established that Dale Peters died.

Scout1071, want to start a new topic on this? Another question is will the mods allow it, or delete/lock as an offshoot of another flamey topic.

The issues seem to be getting mixed up here.
1. Dale Peters was at Modell funeral home, I called this morning and am satisfied with that.

2. Monkeyman posted a lot of good stuff here, brought a lot of attention to veterans issues and I very much thank him for that. Monkeyman is gone from DU and I will miss him. He was a loving person, we were fortunate to be a part of his life.

3. Was he honest about his military status? I don't know. This is a separate issue from whether or not he was a loving person, whether or not we were fortunate to be a part of his life. It needs to be addressed since, in my opinion, faking it is a wrong thing to do.



Having #3 in its own thread would be a good idea, but please realize that putting "the truth" in your OP will bring out questions about #3.
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:46 PM
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8. i have questions about my own military service.
If Monkeyman said "Follow ME" i would.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:48 PM
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10. Me too. He was a good person.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:00 PM
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13. Best response evah!
:patriot:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:10 PM
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2. lalalala I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:23 PM
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4. Well the onus is on them IMO.
That is all I'm going to say about it.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:39 PM
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7. What;s the point?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:47 PM
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9. Good question.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:20 PM
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11. "Swiftboating" is nothing less than entirely disrespectful.
Loved monkeyman and am deeply sorry to hear of his passing and very grateful for his imput.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:36 PM
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12. Well. TomFromTib says he's real.
That's good enough for me.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 02:40 AM
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21. Same here. n/t
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:04 PM
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14. What is it with you frigging people? A man is dead. So is
Cindy Sheehan's son. No wonder she mentioned DU as one of the reasons.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:19 PM
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15. Why do I keep having flashbacks to Scamdy.com?
Which, btw, has FINALLY been taken down.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:54 PM
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16. Full frontal flashbacks. n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:12 AM
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17. oh boy
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:39 AM
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18. Well the kos threads make it clear he was not a veteran
So on that count I have to agree with Scout1071 and others- he was not being truthful about his status.

The dailykos threeads are very illuminating on this:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/15/9311/84467
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/16/142957/654

However, it was good that he brought attention to veterans' issues.

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:09 PM
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19. Thanks for those links
I feel bad that he and his wife have died. But, under no circumstances is it okay to lie about your military service...even if that's to help Veterans.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 12:47 AM
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20. Is _anything_ in this whole affair true? Because most of the stuff...
...I'm coming across is pointing to this being a deception, or big portions of it being a deception for the last six months at least. Leaves a sick feeling in the stomach and a bad taste in the mouth.

PB
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