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Mon Jun-11-07 05:36 PM
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Does the democratic house and senate have the power to do anything concerning this administration and the sorry state of the economy and the deterioration of America's place in the world or not???
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Mon Jun-11-07 05:41 PM
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1. Sure they do- and they always did |
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Yet a significant number of their members repeatedly legitimized and enabled the far right- voting for their legislation and confirming their nominees.
Power? of course they had and have the power- but they lack the will.
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Mon Jun-11-07 05:42 PM
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2. They don't hae the votes to override a veto.... |
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Mon Jun-11-07 05:46 PM
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3. It isn't just the Gonzo thing |
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It's about virtually every hearing they've had with facts and reason without results.
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Mon Jun-11-07 05:48 PM
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5. The hearings are fine.... |
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But when they get action on the floor, the GOP can stall them by not going along at least part way...
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Mon Jun-11-07 05:52 PM
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7. So that's their only source of power? |
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Somehow I think history shows us differently.
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Mon Jun-11-07 05:47 PM
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4. very little power, actually |
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seeing as how they don't have 60 votes in the Senate to move things forward, and they don't have anything approaching a veto-proof majority in either house.
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Mon Jun-11-07 05:51 PM
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6. They are relying on us |
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to somehow vote the rethugs out while the death tolls for our troops keep raising.
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Mon Jun-11-07 05:53 PM
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I'm not sure what it is you want.
They don't have the power to do the things you want. Political solutions work on timescales that very disappointing to some, but that's the system we have.
This is Bush's war. The Democrats, and a small but growing number of Republicans, want to end it. It can't be done with the wave of a wand.
I'm continually surprised by the attitudes of some people here - anybody who thought getting 51 Senate seats meant a sweeping reversal of the last 6 years just doesn't understand politics or our government.
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Mon Jun-11-07 05:53 PM
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8. And how many Congresses have had a veto proof majority? |
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I guess each and every one of them was just as powerless as this one....
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Mon Jun-11-07 08:27 PM
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10. And how many congresses |
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have ended a war over the objections of the president?
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Tue Jun-12-07 12:38 AM
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11. This goes WAY beyond the war |
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and I think people understand that.
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Tue Jun-12-07 01:27 AM
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13. With an opposition President, the only one I can think of is possibly under Nixon/Ford |
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Edited on Tue Jun-12-07 01:27 AM by Hippo_Tron
Although I don't think Democrats had a veto proof majority, just enough seats to get veto override with Republican help
The Democrats had a veto proof majority for part of the time while FDR was in office, but there was no point because the Presisdent and Congress were from the same party.
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