tyedyeto
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Mon Jun-11-07 06:32 PM
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I'm confused... What's the difference between censure and no confidence? |
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I've heard both terms used today in regards to the Senate vote.
Is there a difference? If so, what makes it that way?
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WCGreen
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Mon Jun-11-07 06:33 PM
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1. Censure is an internal vote for the senate.... |
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No confidence vote is as meaningless as a non-binding resolution..
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tyedyeto
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Mon Jun-11-07 06:42 PM
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4. I understand that no confidence is meaningless |
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Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 06:45 PM by tyedyeto
it's just that I have been seeing both terms used for today's vote.
In a censure vote, what does that mean to the person who is censured? I, once upon a time, thought I had heard about a censure vote for the President. But, according to you, that cannot happen?
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Mon Jun-11-07 06:35 PM
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2. Censure vote, as I understand it, applies to a member of Congress. |
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This cloture vote, which was defeated, was to bring a 'sense of the Senate' vote of no confidence to the floor in re: a member of the Executive.
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Mon Jun-11-07 06:38 PM
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3. 7 letters vs. 12; 2 sylables v. 4, 1 word, vs 2. |
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Oh, I see. you were not being rhetorical.
both are like jacking off in the closet. Feels good for a short bit, but, accomplishes little else.
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Mon Jun-11-07 06:43 PM
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5. no confidence (which has NO effect) is like a lesser form of censure (which also has no effect) |
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Mon Jun-11-07 06:55 PM
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In a society which ostracizes for infractions of honor, this vote would cause Gonzales to kill himself. There would be no place he could go, nothing he could do. His family would be tainted by the shame for generations.
That was what was supposed to happen with Clinton. BUT IT DIDN'T. He hung on. He won. He fucking triumphed. These guys talk Reagan but their model, their god, is William Jefferson Clinton. If Clinton wasn't too ashamed to live when his lie about adultery was found out, these babies ain't ashamed to live when their lies about treason are found out. Same thing, see? Well, you'd see if you were a Republican.
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Mon Jun-11-07 07:00 PM
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7. One's a meaningless statement, creating no real inconvenience for its target, and the other... |
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