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Tue Jun-12-07 07:45 AM
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So if Bush/Cheney actually attack Iran, what do we do about it? |
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Write and call congress? March on Washington? Shoot off letters to the editor? Take to the streets with pitchforks and torches?
The truth is, they can do just about anything they want to do and there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop them. And I know that many will call for an armed uprising, but that would just be a principled way of committing suicide.
Perhaps the remainder of the civilized world would rise up and decide to put an end to this criminal administration once and for all. But just how would they go about it? Does anyone doubt that Bush/Cheney would launch our nuclear arsenal if such a thing were to happen?
So if they do attack Iran, just what the hell would we or could we do about it?
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Tue Jun-12-07 07:50 AM
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1. We could fill our gas tanks, |
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and stockpile gas and oil.
The only other thing we could do would be to wait for the rest of the world to close ranks against us. They could try to impose sanctions. We could appeal to them for help against * and Cheney. If by that time there was no impeachment, then our democracy would truly be over.
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Tue Jun-12-07 07:58 AM
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2. If they attack Iran without going through Congress, I suggest Congress impeach them |
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In fact right now Congress should be repealing the IWR, and assume the job the Constitution intended them to do, oversight.
Would that stop them from attacking, no, but it would start the process going in the right direction
What has Congress actualy done in 5 months? They campagined that they would not give this president a blank check on Iraq, and then couldn't get consenses among Democrats to vote against the funding bill.
The brought up a vote of no confidence against Gonzalez, when in fact gonzalez at minimum, lied under oath, and withness tampering, both illegal activities which Gonzalez should be charged with, NOT a vote of no confidence.
When Pelosi makes a comment that impeachment is off the table, what does that say about the rule of law?
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:01 AM
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to prevent war later. But the other "nan" isn't listening.
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:46 AM
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14. Right on............... |
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:00 AM
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3. first thing is I would tell everyone who called me a tinfoil hatter to kiss my hairy butt, then |
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I would sit down and weep for humanity.
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:00 AM
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:04 AM
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16. I'm mega-kvetching but it just doesn't seem to help. |
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:32 AM
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22. so much for the squeaky wheel, ay? |
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:04 AM
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6. We can do whatever we want, but it will make no difference. |
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We have no power. That's plain for all to see now.
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:10 AM
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However it's such an excellent question, I wonder why none of the MSM except Seymour Hersh are asking the question? Paris won't be mobile for a few more days yet.
Are there any journalists out there who feel a little remorse about 2002 and would like to make amends by nailing this administration with hard REPETITIVE questions even in the face of the lies & stonewalling?
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:14 AM
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8. National strike...shut the country down, cut off the money |
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:15 AM
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9. Say "OOPS!" real loud. Followed by "Who could have imagined such a thing." n/t |
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:16 AM
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10. Not one, but TWO strongly worded |
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letters threatening not to fund the attack. Then fund the attack
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:20 AM
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11. Each of us should become our own version of "Cindy Sheehan". |
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Edited on Tue Jun-12-07 08:21 AM by Jim__
If everyone did what she did, I believe we could stop the Iraq war. If they attack Iran, there will probably be enough outrage that people will be willing to act. By taking your own personal action, but taking the action publicly, you may get other people to act. When Cindy Sheehan went down to Texas in 2005, she probably didn't expect that anything would come of it. She rekindled the anti-war movement.
I've seen it happen before. After the shootings at Kent State, the university that I was going to, essentially did not react. A day later, a friend of mine made his own little picket sign and started marching up and down, all by himself, in the main area of the school. Lots of people joined him. A week later, the entire school was shut down.
We can have an impact. Think about what action you can take if they attack Iran, and then do it. It may have little effect. But, if enough people do that, it may just turn this country around.
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:38 AM
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12. GOTV and canvass some more..... |
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...at least that's what many people felt who responded to a post i wrote yesterday.
i wrote a long rant that was misinterpreted and i took a lot of heat for it. my main point was that we think we are working for change by canvassing, campaigning, contributing money to dem candidates and voting. but, the fact is that the system is rigged in favor of the corporate people that own the repub party (and part of the dem party) and own the media. trying to beat them within their own rigged system is futile.
i tried to make a comparison between the situation we're in now and that of the interracial couple that broke an obscene law 40 years ago by getting married...they got arrested but eventually won and forced the law to be changed. it's exactly this type of civil disobedience (except on a much grander scale) that will be necessary to force the radical change we need. many disagreed with me and chided me because they thought i was trivializing all their hard work on GOTV campaigns etc.
the first line of business would probably be taking back the public airwaves and ensuring that the population is better informed. right now, even on the so called "liberal" mainstream media, such as the network news, we're fed a corporate approved version of the news. we have to yank the public airwaves out of the hands of these corporate pigs, by force if necessary. unfortunately, i don't see that happening. we just don't have the stones for it.
so, get your popcorn popping, open up a nice cold beer, turn on the tv and watch the shock and awe firework show in iran on the nightly infotainment channel. the live broadcast will be brought to you by the very same corporations that wrote the script for the war. they make money of off it coming and going.
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:44 AM
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13. Email my senator and representatives |
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who will do nothing substantial, even though they are Dems.
And pray.
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Tue Jun-12-07 08:47 AM
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15. Sort of makes one feel powerless? |
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I didn't see this post or I wouldn't have made one so similar, but, I sadly agree, there's nothing we can do to stop bush and cheney, except stop them.
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:13 AM
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17. They really just don't give a damn what any of us think or do. |
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Bush's ratings could drop into single digits and it would make no difference. They would just keep doing what they're doing while telling us to go "Cheney" ourselves.
I believe the only ones capable of stopping them are Republican members of congress. If enough of them become terrified enough that they'll all be voted out, they just might join the Dems and go for impeachment of Bush/Cheney. That they haven't yet done so speaks volumes about who they are and what they stand for.
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:19 AM
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18. it's not bush/cheney you're up against |
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they're just puppets for people with a lot more money and power.
bush/cheney and the repukes in congress and the senate (and many dems, too, i imagine) are bought and paid for by the likes of exxon, halliburton, pfizer, monsanto, GE, etc etc etc etc etc.
if it weren't bush/cheney in there, it would be some other puppets. remember reagan? poppy bush? dan quayle? did these seem like great leaders with vision? or just front men pasted into place to help divert money and resources to the people above them?
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:30 AM
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21. What you say is true to a degree. However, do you believe that |
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Al Gore would have attacked Iraq had the 2000 election not been stolen from him. And had Kerry been president in 2004, do you think he wouldn't have ended the war by now. If either of these things had happened, we wouldn't be talking about Iran.
So, yes, corporations control much. But they don't control it all.
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:49 AM
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25. good point....i agree that gore would not have attacked iraq |
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in fact, i think gore was way more on the ball than these cretins and a gore administration would have probably stopped 911 from happening.
when i said that if it weren't bush/cheney it would be some other puppets, i meant within the repuke party.
gore should be our president right now. he should be finishing off his second term.
as for kerry, i'm not really sure if he would have ended the war. i want to believe he would have, but i'm not 100% sure.
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:21 AM
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19. Tell me again what are the DU posting rules regarding revolution? |
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:25 AM
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20. Do nothing and like it |
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Then have bets placed on us about whether or not we'll eat the booger we just picked while we're standing around looking like idiots.
I love Caddyshack.
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:32 AM
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23. Why Wait til They Attack? |
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I'm starting to think it would be glorious to have a "pitchfork" protest in DC.
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Tue Jun-12-07 09:33 AM
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24. We can watch are elected Dems voice their displeasure. |
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