Today I have no hope. Did not watch news yesterday. I didn't know about the no conf vote

[greenbriar]

ladies and gents.

I do believe we have lost it all


that victory in November means NOTHING


we have DINOS and wanna be's

we will get NOTHING done

and unless Gore runs and WINS nothing is going to change





I expected the NEW congress to go in and KIck some ass but instead they are bending over and not fighting


I want them to fight FOR US FOR TRUTH FOR the CoNSTITUTION

[Tyler Durden]

1. What YOU said.

I see no reason for enthusiasm or optimism. My new motto is "Veni Vidi Fece": I came, I saw, I got shit on.

[ClassWarrior]

2. Yeah, let's just give up. After all, it's only our country and our children.

:eyes:

NGU.

[T Wolf]

5. Maybe what Greenbriar is saying is that there is no political solution.

I would have to agree. What the Vichy-Dems are doing is shitting on everyone who worked to get "them" the majority. All for nothing.

It's time to look elsewhere for solutions.

[ClassWarrior]

10. I'm all for looking for productive solutions. But I don't consider...

...wailing and gnashing of teeth, and name-calling, and feeling sorry for ourselves to be very productive. In fact, I'd go so far as to call it counterproductive.

:shrug:

NGU.

[greenbriar]

11. wel, excuse the piss out of me...USUALLY I am the positive one trying to keep people positive

today


I just don't feel it

[Tyler Durden]

9. I've called Levin and Stabenow at least 3 times a week since November.

I've emailed and called Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi at least once a week since November. Same with Leahy. Same with the Democrat de Jour.

Nobody is listening. I won't stop, but if you've got a reason for me to stop stockpiling canned goods, bottled water, and erecting my wind generator in the middle of a city...I'm all ears.

[roody]

3. Take a break!! Keep it turned off and enjoy

the June air. Even if Gore were our president, things could stay the same. Go commit some random acts of kindness.

[bryant69]

4. I like Gore a lot and I think he's done well since 2000

But I don't think, if elected, his presidency would be all that much more liberal than Obamas or Edwards.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[babylonsister]

6. Aw, come on. The conservatives killed it, but the vote passed 58-38.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/11/conservatives-kill-gonzales-no-confidence-vote/

Conservatives kill Gonzales no-confidence vote.

Moments ago, the no-confidence measure on Alberto Gonzales came up seven votes short of a procedural hurdle, passing 53-38. The vote was largely down party lines, except for seven Republicans who supported the measure (Coleman, Collins, Hagel, Smith, Snowe, Specter, Sununu) and Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT), who opposed it.

UPDATE: Complete roll call vote is HERE:
http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00207

[Buzz Clik]

7. All the Dems for cloture. What else was to be done?

You need to extend beyond the present mess toward the future. We continue to help the GOP as they paint themselves into corners. As we continue to press and they continue to support obvious criminals and those who urinating on the Constitution, our position becomes stronger.

[TayTay]

12. No Dem voted against cloture

Do you think Allen
Santorum
Talent
and so forth would have voted this way?

06 did make a difference. But there are still not enough Dems in the Senate. We have to keep pushing.

[Buzz Clik]

13. Yep.

[ramapo]

8. It would take more than the new Al Gore

The problem is we have a Congress that is beholden to special interests and entrenched power. It doesn't matter if the party label is Republican or Democratic. The Senate in particular is a group who, when push comes to shove, will go along to get along. It is all about money and political power. Right and wrong mean nothing.

[onenote]

14. apart from your apparent lack of math skills

you also appear to have a flawed understanding of the legislative process. There are 51 members of the Democratic caucus. One (Lieberman) voted against the no-confidence resolution four (Johnson, Obama, Biden, Dodd) didn't vote. The cloture motion failed not because of those votes, but because there were only 7 repubs that supported cloture.

Explain to me what "DINOs" and "wanna be's" did something yesterday to cause you to lose hope. I'm curious.

[LiberalEsto]

15. I feel the same way

I wish I had even a shred of hope, but this Congress is not stepping up to the plate the way I hoped they would.

Any Democratic fundraiser who calls our house is being told, "Not a penny until impeachment is on the table."

[Matariki]

16. November WAS a victory, just not big enough of a victory.

No Democrats voted against the no confidence bill yesterday and 7 Republicans voted with us. We don't have 60 Democrats in the Senate to get a majority. Yet.

Don't give up hope and don't blame the Dems. Okay?

[peace13]

17. However, we did have some Dems that didn't vote! n/t

[blues90]

18. we may not have enough dems in the senate

Not to get on your case but what about the dems before nov , they sat back and confirmed all the criminals the reubs wanted including torture boy and condi and two supreme court judges . How does this look and what does this say about the Dems .

This is one reason I have lost hope in this so called government we have now , only a few are the real deal and a few are not enough .

Feingold wanted to censure bush and he was left hanging in the breeze by the dems .

[PuraVidaDreamin]

19. This is how I'm feeling too.

At this point I can imagine nothing that
will awaken the sheeple.
'cept a draft

[leftofthedial]

20. they don't even have enough guts to vote themselves an increased Vaseline allotment

to ease the "passage" of the repuke agenda they seem to be servicing

[ClassWarrior]

21. None of the Progressives I know...

...carry around this much hatred. None.

NGU.

[Zodiak]

22. you are confusing seething anger and frustration with hatred.

when the word "hate" is used, feel free to accuse. Until then, deal with the emotion you see; do not construct a strawman.

[leftofthedial]

23. well, okay

I have hatred, but not for what you imply.

Maybe progressives need a little more anger . . .