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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:04 PM
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What About Bill Richardson?
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/53948/

What About Bill Richardson?

Posted by Guest Blogger at 12:49 PM on June 12, 2007.

Paul Abrams: Despite his lackluster debate performances, Bill Richardson is slowly climbing in the polls. What does this mean and why is it happening?


This post, written by Paul Abrams, originally appeared on The Huffington Post

Let us be clear: Governor-Diplomat-Energy Secretary-Bill Richardson is not a great debater. The Senators are all better, and for a good reason: that's their livelihood.

Yet, every time the Dems convene, every time Richardson gets a shot at the electorate, every time he meets voters, he impresses, he shifts peoples' perspectives, he wins adherents. I have been listening to each of the candidates as they come through Seattle, and heard Richardson introduced -- by a person who was neutral in the race -- as those who are ALREADY President are often introduced: "an honor -- how often in your life do you get to stand next to a person who has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize 4 times?", "a man who has traveled to the most difficult hot spots to diffuse crises or to rescue US hostages -- even from Saddam Hussein" ... "the person the North Koreans called when they wanted to restart discussions".

Richardson was much better with the crowd than he was at the debate. Someone asked him about negotiating with Saddam, and his account mesmerized everyone -- not to mention the flourish of inviting Tariq Azziz, Saddam's foreign minister whom he knew was Christian, to go to mass with him.

Prior to the last debate, Richardson had climbed to 10% in Iowa, perhaps the result of his going on the air. But, he was still nowhere in general polling. Today, we learn, that after the debate, he is now 10% in general polling, and that cannot be related to his ad, because he has had none outside of New Hampshire and Iowa, or the "debating points" he scored, because he did not score many.

How to explain this? Possibly, people like that he has actually engaged in foreign policy rather than just talking about it (even Hillary was stimulated to thank him during the debate for what he did for President Clinton), and that he has governed a poor state with success and innovative solutions (who could not love his tax credits for businesses that locate in New Mexico AND that pay workers above the prevailing wage? his investment in early grade school education and health care for all children under 5?).

But, all that does not really come across in the debates. Even if it gets mentioned, there is no time for context or explanation. What is noteworthy during the debate is that Richardson is the only candidate who can, on almost every policy question, rattle off what he has ALREADY done. Perhaps, people are responding to actual solutions to real problems. That would be novel -- and refreshing.

Will Richardson go all the way? Impossible to know. If I were in the top 3, or the MSM who has annointed them, I would be praying that Richardson does not hone his debating skills.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:16 PM
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1. Richardson is climbing because he can do the job.
Oh, any of them will be able to do the job, but it takes someone who has served as governor and in a cabinet a lot shorter time on that learning curve.

Richardson had a lousy first term as governor here in NM. He came to office with a head full of DLC cant. He has redeemed himself thus far in his second term. Had he not redeemed himself, I'd still be excoriating him in this forum.

No, he's not my favorite candidate, but he's got a grasp of what the job entails and he's a Democrat. We could do worse. We have done worse. We are doing worse.
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:19 PM
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2. Keeping my fingers crossed...
for him. He's the best chance we have IMO.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:22 PM
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3. What about recounting New Mexico? n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 11:49 PM
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10. ah yes...the recount. i just can't get beyond that one.
it would be ironic if he wanted a recount for the primary--should he stay in the race.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 12:55 AM
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18. When I think about all the people who put their lives on hold
all the people who gave what they couldn't afford to give in dollars, all those people and all that effort to get things right, Richardson can go straight to you know where.

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:18 AM
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19. exactly. that's how i feel -- i don't forgive him, and i can't forget it. and
i really wish this country wouldn't forget, and i would hope they wouldn't forgive him. how can you forgive that?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:22 AM
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20. Remembering is an act of defiance, orleans.
:toast:
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:25 AM
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21. I'm from NM and flew out for 'Election Protection'
It was a crazy few weeks after Kerry conceeded.... I ended up working for the GREEN Party to get a recount....


It was ugly. In regards to the 2004 election he was a dweeb, a twerp and an asshole.

I don't hold grudges, but I need to REALLY hear my home-boy before I make him my #1 priority.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:35 AM
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22. He blocked the recount that mostly would have impacted
minority votes.

Please don't nominate him.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:25 PM
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4. Bill Richardson worked for Henry Kissinger's Strategic Studies Group..
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bill_Richardson

Old wine in new bottles (as Noam Chomsky would say)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:42 PM
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5. Noam Chomsky is a paranoid crank who paints with too broad a brush.
Richardson is NOT sympathetic with Kissinger.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:42 PM
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6. I like him a lot. nt
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:44 PM
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7. I like him a lot....nt
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:57 PM
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8. Richardson lied about being drafted by Major League baseball
One-Time Prospect Acknowledges Draft Info Wrong

By Toby Smith
Journal Staff Writer
As a young man, Gov. Bill Richardson was an accomplished baseball pitcher. You can look it up.
What you won't find in the record books is a baseball distinction that's been attached to Richardson's name for almost 40 years: that he was drafted to play pro baseball by the Kansas City Athletics.
Publications ranging from The New York Times to the New Republic to the Albuquerque Journal have reported that as fact. So have USA Today, Time magazine and National Review.
In the just-published "2006 Almanac of American Politics," these words appear in a history of Richardson's career: " ... in 1967 was drafted by the Kansas City Athletics."
In preparing a story earlier this year on Richardson's baseball past, the Journal was unable to confirm in any authoritative record that he had been drafted.
-------------------snip-------------------------
<http://www.abqjournal.com/news/special/410505sports11-24-05.htm>
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:00 PM
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9. I have a few friends that are big Richardson supporters
I respect these friends quite a bit, so that lends me to think favorably of Richardson. Yet, I'm full willing to admit, that I know little about him in general.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 11:50 PM
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11. his comments about Gonzo really pissed me off.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 11:53 PM
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12. He loves shipping jobs out of the country.
Huge supporter of NAFTA, GATT, WTO, MFN, and other fake free trade deals when he was in congress. Sounded just like Newt Gingrich during the CNN and CSPAN coverage of the NAFTA debate in 1993.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 12:12 AM
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13. We like Bill Richardson
just saw him speak in Las Vegas last Wednesday. He is a very nice presence and a great smile.

Talked about bringing the arts back into the schools.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 12:44 AM
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15. Bringing arts back? That's really going to help all the families he helped destroy
with his support of NAFTA and all the other outsourcing deals. Why didn't he talk about bringing all the jobs back he helped ship out of the country? Why didn't he tell you about the falling real wages of working class Americans thanks to his votes in congress? He didn't tell you because he is a corporate-loving, free-trade loving, DLC Dino - that's why.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 12:50 AM
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17. you should read this

New Mexico Gov. Richardson: If elected President, I may tap James Baker as Mideast envoy

Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico, one of the Democratic candidates for president, said Wednesday that he would consider appointing former secretary of state James Baker to be special envoy to the Middle East peace process if elected president.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/852210.html

you want the next president to be a someone who thinks James Baker deserves anything but ridicule?
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 12:25 AM
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14. Richardson is bad news. He wants James Baker to work for him..
I had the good fortune of spending a couple hours with Greg Palast. I asked him what he thought of Bill Richardson. He has NOTHING good to say about him. Did you know he stated if he is president he would hire James Baker for his cabinet? Doest that tell you enough? I think he is hard core DLC.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 12:50 AM
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16. I like Richardson.
He's the only Democratic candidate whom I could vote for with any enthusiasm.
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