No Joke - "Lose Weight - Through the Power of Prayer"

[Matsubara]

Who needs diet and exercise - I got a friend named Jesus!


VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL6ELDg0pS8

http://www.weighdown.com/


Gwen Shamblin

OVER ONE MILLION PEOPLE HAVE APPLIED THE PRINCIPLES OF WEIGH DOWN (VIA BOOK, ETC.) AND HAVE EXPERIENCED MAJOR LIFE CHANGES, INCLUDING WEIGHT LOSS, AND FREEDOM FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE, SMOKING, OVERSPENDING, EATING DISORDERS, SEXUAL ADDICTIONS, AND VARIOUS OTHER STRONGHOLDS.
The Weigh Down Workshop was established over 15 years ago. It has been held in over 30,000 locations all over the world. It was considered one of the largest faith-based seminars in the world at one point in time. After holding the position for approximately a decade, many faith-based programs were spawned from many different denominations. However, Weigh Down continues to be unique. From what we have gathered, most of the newer programs have still been based on changing the content of the food. Weigh Down has always been based on the principal that diets have CAUSED or exacerbated overeating in this country. It has given people false hopes, and then failed them - making most people feel like failures. What is beautiful about Weigh Down is that it teaches people to depend on and to turn back to their Creator for help. We all need hope, and we all need help. Another source of help has been encouraging people to turn to the Word of God and to Godly fellowship. There is a growing army of permanently thin people who are helping others to let go of the magnetic pull of food. Weigh Down is a ministry and scholarships many people, and we pray that we are making a real impact on the plague of overweight/obesity in this country.












I wonder why it didn't work for Marguerite?

"DARK SIDED!"

[Erika]

1. Greedy bastards prostituting God

Sure glad I'm an atheist.

[mackattack]

3. duh

If you’re praying, you’re not eating

[ComerPerro]

38. heh, the ones who think that God is their personal genie are just as bad as the ones who profit, IMO

that is, the ones who buy into this crap are just as self-serving and greedy

[Bonobo]

2. Good stuff. By the way, get some unagi for me while you're over there.

Have YOU seen a rise in price on unagi?

There's another thread in GD about them running out of eel...

[Matsubara]

4. Not a big fan of the unagi.

I occasionally have it, but the little bones bug me, and besides, they are farmed in filth and chemicals.

I wasn't aware that they lived in salt as well as fresh water....

[Bonobo]

7. Yummm... filth and chemicals...

I think there's some salt water/fresh water crossover issues, yeah...

As for the bones, oh well... good calcium source.

Matsubara, what'd you translate today, man?

[Matsubara]

8. Absolutely NOTHING.

Been slow for a couple days. I should get to work editing vids of the kiddies...

[Bonobo]

10. I'm sending you a PM. Okay?

[Dervill Crow]

5. I have a set of those damned tapes and the book, if anyone wants to try it.

I decided I'd rather be a chubby happy heathen.

:silly:

[karlrschneider]

6. Looks like Jerry Foulball missed out on that wonderful program.

:eyes:

[durtee librul]

9. There was an article in one of those woman's magazines

about a week ago about some woman who prayed to lose weight as she read in the bible her body was a temple and she wasn't honoring god by taking care of his temple.

What water do these people drink?

[karlrschneider]

24. Heavy water, I suppose...

:D
:eyes:

[Canuckistanian]

11. Can it enlarge my penis?

Erm, not that it NEEDS... umm ... never mind.

[AZBlue]

12. If it works for people - and it does work for some - why are you to denigrate it?

Why do you feel so superior? Does this make you feel better about yourself? You should work on yourself and leave others alone to work on themselves.

[Erika]

14. Prostituting God isn't respected even by atheists n/t

[Matsubara]

19. At most, I'm poking gentle fun.

If wearing spandex tights while doing the macarena in the shower it works for somebody, I'm all for it.

But I might still make fun of it...

[ecstatic]

13. Since many addictions including overeating come from a desire to avoid dealing with emotions

I wouldn't be surprised if any type of prayer/meditation/yoga helped some people and served as an alternative to destructive behavior.

[Erika]

15. You're talking about replacing one addiction for another

Like W, who gave up alcohol and whatever in the drug world, and went psycho on his God addiction replacement. Hence, he's called a dry drunk and a radical evangelical.

[Initech]

16. Actually that diet makes sense!

You give all your disposable income to your religious diety of choice... no money to spend on food!

[welshTerrier2]

17. is this what they mean by a "single prayer" health care system?

i wonder which religion has the best coverage ...

[Erika]

29. Yeah, just pray. Prayers cure all

Heck with insurance and the medical industry. Just pray.

[tyedyeto]

18. So... all I need to do is ask for God's help to lose 20 pounds?

The creator hasn't helped me one bit..... and I've been praying to the Lord every day that He will help me lose weight.

Why isn't it working????? Maybe I haven't had fellowship with enough people. But wait! I've commiserated with several god-fearing folks over the past several months about mine and their weight gains. Nothing has been done about it.

Where do I go from here? Do all of us need to seek higher assistance?
several are Catholic (not me), so don't ask us to seek advice from the Pope. But where else can we seek the guidance that we so desperately need?

Thanks in advance.

[AnnieBW]

20. Jeebus, make me thin!

Holy Jeebus, make me skinny like that Paris Hilton chick!

Personally, I have the body of a Goddess...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

21. More Intolerance. It Gets Really Ridiculous Here Sometimes.

It's like some people here search for these obscure things just so they can criticize people's faith.

Fact is, an open mind would be able to understand quite quickly and readily why having a strong faith and looking to the lord for strength and guidance in such a way could absolutely work for some people. Obviously it has. So why poke fun at it?

It seems to me that when posters here choose topics like this to poke fun at, they are doing so not towards the concept itself but simply due to it having something to do with faith and religion. I think that's just plain sad and inappropriate.

If people want to love God, trust God, have faith in God and use those things to help motivate them to lose weight, then I fail to see what the problem is or why it is open for mockery.

You should think about that a bit next time before you so easily show intolerance towards others.

[karlrschneider]

25. You're right. The Lawd can make people thin but She doesn't have much luck

saving them from tornadoes.

Funny how that works.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

27. Your Premise Is One Rooted In Ignorance And You Know It.

It isn't the Lord making them thin nor is that their claim. It is their faith in him, the strength they believe he gives them, and their belief of his love for them which gives them the motivation and guidance they need.

There is not a thing wrong with that if that's what they choose. The intolerance and ignorance shown by some here is disgusting.

It also is quite nonsensical to twist it into a claim that they lose weight merely from His snapping of fingers, so to speak. Quite nonsensical indeed.

Threads like this should be nothing short of condemned here, as they are neither Democratic in spirit nor beneficial to anyone. Intolerance should always be condemned.

[Erika]

31. So if our Iraqi troops had more faith, they wouldn't die?

Is that what you are saying?

[karlrschneider]

34. Absolutely. If your prayer isn't answered (the way you want) it's your lack of faith.

A convenient way to explain what, absent that small caveat, doesn't really work at all. :eyes:

[karlrschneider]

35. The notion that 'faith' will more likely make somebody thin is even more ludicrous

than believing some imaginary sky-daddy can.

[Matsubara]

26. How is poking fun of a money-making scheme "intolerance"

I guess I have to give you credit for consistency, OMC.

I'm TOTALLY tolerant of people's faith. In fact, I admire and support it.

But I hope that they find a way to pray for weight loss (or whatever else) without showering their money on this charlatan.


Real faith should not require a highly paid middleman.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

28. And Your Reasoning For Accusing Her Of Such Things Is What Now?

So per you, anyone selling any product they believe in is doing so with ill intent for sake of a money making scheme? Your evidence supporting your argument that they don't believe in the product they're selling is what now?

Sorry, but threads like this are rooted in a spirit of mocking people who have deep faith. Look at some of the comments you've produced because of it. Do they seem of genuine decency and tolerance to you?

Fact is, you posted some obscure website that was probably searched for. There were a million different supposed money making schemes you could've chosen for mockery. You chose one based on deep faith. That was done for a reason.

Sorry, but I find threads like this to be disgusting and feel they only serve to harm our community message.

Can you provide any convincing evidence that she's a charlatan running a money making scheme? Or is that just a knee jerk unfair accusation based on the fact that they incorporate deep faith in God into their technique?

[Matsubara]

36. LOL! "Deep Faith" - now for just 3 easy payments of $49.99!

"Sorry, but I find threads like this to be disgusting and feel they only serve to harm our community message."

Oh brother. Even most conservative Christians can probably see through the Falwells and the 700 Clubs and other religious gimmicks for what they are. The hucksters prey on a small minority of people with more faith than common sense, and you know it.

"harm our community message" That's rich.



Nobody here is going to buy into that load of tripe. Exactly what audience was it written for?

[Erika]

32. Hey, the highly paid middle men are who keeps religion going

Bakker, Swaggert, Haggard, Robertson, Falwell and the rest of the charlatans.

[Erika]

30. If God could work miracles, why would He allow our kids to die in Iraq?

He can help people lose weight but can't stop war? Do you understand how illogical this sounds? Any clue?

[tyedyeto]

33. So, you are saying...

'All I need to do is to pray to the Almighty Lord to lose weight, and it will happen'?

Strength and guidance from The Lord will make it happen?

I can keep eating and drinking whatever I have been doing for years and all it takes is a prayer and I'm going to miraculously lose all the weight I've gained over the past 20-30 years?

[Edweird]

22. I think it's a way to further isolate themselves and reinforce their delusion of persecution.

[Nikia]

23. Having suffered with an eating disorder and met others who have

There are already enough people with eating disorders who have created a warped theology in their own minds about the virtues of denial and purging in order to be redeemed.
People trying to persuade others to think this way can only cause even more vunerable people to develop serious problems.
Here is my take on things now. Eating is not a sin. Having some weight on one's body is not a sin. Depriving oneself of food is not penance. Excessive exercise or purging is not penance. God does not hold it against us if we are not thin. We aren't granted forgiveness because we made ourselves thin (especially by deprivation or purging). We are forgiven because it is a freely given gift. Any Christian group that tells people otherwise should be ashamed of themselves.

[Oeditpus Rex]

37. Hey — you suppose...

Slimmed by His Noodly Appendage