Global warming drops off the radar

[Harper_is_Bush]

Source: the indifferent world around us

Sorry. I'm just so fucking frustrated at the false priorities and actions of EXXON and their benificiaries that I can't stand it anymore.

I'm also dissappointed in DU. It seems 1000x more concerned with the Iraq war than global warming. Maybe the worm-like effects of the denial lobby have extended beyond an ignorant base.

Maybe the widespread human suffering of global warming - suffering that will outstrip anything that has come before - has been placed in doubt by the denial campaign even here.

Read more: nobodygivesafuck.com

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[Systematic Chaos]

1. You been to the Environment/Energy forum recently?

Plenty of people there who give a fuck, plus a couple who think solar pool heaters are pure mana from heaven.

[RestoreGore]

10. Yes, and hardly anything posted there gets recognized

For a topic so many say is paramount, you would never know it by the response.

[Canuckistanian]

2. I really don't think it's dropped off anybody's radar

There are millions of us paying attention - and changing our own lives. And more importantly, we're teaching our children.

It's always in the back of our minds, no matter what's "in front".

And the GW deniers are keeping the debate - and the subject, alive.

[alfredo]

3. The problem is, the war is sucking up resources that can be used

to fight the good fight. Instead of finding clean sources of energy that do not contribute to climate change, we are fighting over the very thing that is putting us in peril. We have to stop the war just to change the focus to domestic issues such as clean, renewable energy.



first stop the bleeding.

[Tyler Durden]

11. Actually, in advanced cardiac life support, I think breathing is first.

I could be wrong. Standards change.

[gordianot]

4. In my (poor) opinion the two issues are linked.

Iraq and the possible war in Iran are centered on oil and energy policy which are also the primary cause of global warming. The war in Iraq was a direct result of the neo-con goal to control world energy policy.

[Captain Angry]

5. It's hard doing the right thing.

You either get ridiculed, or get the "oh, how cute. Did Al Gore teach you that?"

I told my co-workers that I am down to $18.00 a month for my electric bill, and natural gas is around $16.00. I drive under 10 miles a day. I'm working to cut both down further.

They didn't believe me, so I brought in the watt-meter that I used to help me track down the high-power culprits in my place. One of them asked to take the meter home so they can start checking. It's a start.

If my city had mass transit that wasn't so wasteful, I'd take the bus for those 10 miles. But to get 5 miles from here to work, I'd have to leave two hours early and change buses 3 times. And I'm not exaggerating.


Too many people think of global warming as a fringe deal, or politically charged, or not entirely proven. Where I live, you can't talk about it at all, nobody wants to hear it. So I talk pollution. I ask them if they have a problem with coal smokestacks, and the awful air we can have because of them. That gets people thinking about how dirty it is, and I can open a conversation about renewable clean energy, as well as reduction of the energy already drawn.

So, somebodygivesafuck, but way too few really do.

[fed-up]

6. In California PG&E will let you borrow their meter to do the checking-call your local office nt

[Captain Angry]

Nice.

Out here, they give you ways to cheat the pollution controls and give away free samples of coal dipped in baby seal oil.

Ok, not really. But close.

[bdamomma]

14. sad that some people refuse to acknowledge a well known scientific

findings, the facts are out there, and people are in denial or just do not care, well if they have children this is what they are leaving to them to clean up, not something to look forward to.

[madrchsod]

7. it has`t been lost on most people i talk to

or overhear...global warming is the number one topic that just about everyone can agree on..."there`s something wrong with the weather....ya must be global warming.. "

now if the democrats can figure out what to do about this gift in front of them...

[zalinda]

8. I wrote our mayor about the new electric "plant"

that they have been talking about building. First, I don't think they are going to produce energy, I think it's just going to be a "station" so they can buy electricity wholesale, so our electric bills will go down here in the city. I told him I have an entire side of my house that is exposed to the sun (when it's out)all day long, but that I could not afford to put solar in. My idea was to buy the solar panels from the new electric company and add the payment on to the electric bill. And to go a step further to be able to sell to the electric company excess electricity. Not only would it bring more people into the city with cheaper electricity, but more people may want to own their own homes. Cheaper electricity would bring in companies that would want to take advantage of it, which would bring more jobs. And of course, cheaper electricity could bring in electric cars which would clean up our air. It's a win-win for all.

I think about ways to help the environment every day. And I even have my son excited about new environmental technology, and that wasn't easy. But then I was into it since the 70's. When a friend of my son's showed me a book she just got from the library, I was amazed at how little things had changed in the movement. If Ronny hadn't become President, maybe we would have been farther along.

zalinda

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

9. global what?

[RestoreGore]

12. HarperIsBush, you know human nature

People won't care until the water is up over their doorways or it hits them personally. And don't be too discouraged, I care and others do as well. I write about this every day and talk to people everyday. It is part of me, and I see the urgency and am doing all I can to raise this up becasue we are at teh tipping point in soem ways, and getting there fast regarding others. And regarding this site, you should already know that if you can't use something to score points, it isn't important... that's "politics."

[Harper_is_Bush]

13. Thanks RestoreGore. I know there's lot's to be hopeful about...

...the continued influence of the denial lobby just gets me so down sometimes.

I'll stop whining and give some more cfl's to someone at work tomorrow!

[RestoreGore]

16. You aren't whining...

You are showing you care for this planet as far as I am concerned. Wish we saw more of that here (meaning this country as a whole) regarding this crisis as well and stnading up for truth. Where I live I see the signs very clearly and it concerns me greatly. That's why I'm so glad to be a part of Live Earth because no deniers that day will be heard over that roar of truth. Are you going by any chance?

[Gabi Hayes]

15. Ask what the Kiribatti think about it

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10407508



read the books.....it's getting VERY close

well written triolgy, btw