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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:24 AM Original message |
Al Gore's OTHER lapse in judgment |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
1. I have no problems with labels or movie ratings. NT |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. okay, how about labelling books? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Does the Federal Government label movies? Get your facts straight. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:39 AM Original message |
the labelling was a reaction to Senate hearing |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
13. But does the government censor? NT |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. The threat of government censorship creates a chilling effect. |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. "seek the censorship and rating of music." |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. That is the censorship from some points of view |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. It comes when a CD that gets an "evil" label becomes impossible to find |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
42. I've never seen a CD store |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Nice to know that -- it means the prudes failed. -nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. It's people slapping a label on something... |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. That was over 20 years ago. And, I have no problem at all with ratings. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. well, |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. and not everyone wants their children listening to profanity |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. how much information does this actually give you? |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Explicit content says it all for me. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
73. Same here. AS a cheer coach I can have zero suggestive or profane lyrics and that |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
36. Class of '87. |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. I remember when they brought in Frank Zappa to testify |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
83. He'd be the first to acknowledge that "Teen Advisories" SELL music. |
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TroglodyteScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
93. Here he is on YouTube... |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
9. To bring up something from 20 years ago... |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. no, my contention is that the PMRC's efforts |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. Ratings are a tool for parents in any form of media. We use it for |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Yeah. More information for the consumer is a good thing. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. What information does the Tipper Sticker actually give you? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
40. Nothing useful to me. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. so what's the point? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. So a parent out shopping with a child can read the label... |
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AlGore-08.com (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Do you realize that their request for a voluntary ratings system predates the commercial internet? |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. do you agree that the stickers are now essentially useless? |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
85. "Why keep them around now?" |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
81. As a parent, I too appreciate the ratings |
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Nomad559 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. Al Gore was also |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
14. I love the smell of grasping at straws in the morning. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I thought is was worth talking about |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. It was worth talking about... in 1988. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. agreed that it's not a burning issue now |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #28 |
59. Yep, that "diversity of opinion" thing we got at DU is a real pain in the caboose |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. You can bet the GOP noise machine will talk about ANYTHING from 1988 |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I'm having a hard time picturing the GOP as |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. They play what ever song will appease a crowd |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
79. Why? You decide if you want to buy the album. The feds don't "control" it. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
50. no shit! |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
18. The Stickers are Innocuous |
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riverwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
20. he's not the Second Coming |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. And there was that choice of running mate... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
22. i will take all of Al's lapses over little lord pissy pants criminal activities any day!! |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Agreed |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. i'll discuss AL'S record..Al fought for the retraining of all flight crew |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
86. That's an impressive straw man you have there |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
24. why is labelling/rating of music albums a bad thing again...? |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Who decides and on what basis? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
90. they do it with movies-and that seems to work well enough for everyone. |
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quispquake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Who does the rating??? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
91. they rate movies- and that seems to work. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
34. When my son starts buying music, I'll want to know what he's listening to. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
57. I used to say stuff like that when my daughter was young. Now that she's 17... |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. I think there's plenty of music |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
39. Someday when the world is at peace, the environment is healed, & universal healthcare has arrived |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
41. Giving people information is not censorship. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
45. Well Now |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
46. This is why... |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. How is this CENSORSHIP let alone "blatant censorship"? |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. It's somebody's OPINION that there's something questionable in the contents... |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Labeling is NOT censorship. Labeling is not government censorship. NT |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. censorship is Little lord pissy pants..that is censorship..never before in my 55 yrs |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Oh, I agree with you, there's no comparison to *.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
53. They should put warning labels on that censored shit. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
55. That's Not Such A Big Deal. Nothing Wrong With Putting Warning Labels On Them. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
56. let us know when you find the worlds 1ST PERFECT candidate |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Can these real people be critically evaluated? |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
62. Yep. damn him for not keeping the little woman in line! |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. That's not what I said |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. well, that's how it came off to me |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I apologize for not articulating myself better |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
97. no need to apologize |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
68. With Or Without Tipper... |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
69. The PMRC was a joke |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I forgot about the whole Grateful Dead angle |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
70. This is so 20 years ago. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
72. A lot of DUers rail against the misogynistic content of rap, etc. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
74. This is part of the past he is talking about when he refers to this system as toxic |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
76. I'm against making candidates responsible for what their spouses do |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. great responce |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
77. I haven't seen you respond to those... |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. because that's not my claim |
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lies and propaganda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
78. yeah but that was the freaking eighties!!! |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
82. This is the definition of petty... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
84. This is nothing more than excavation of ancient history to kvetch. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
87. Labels are NOT censorship, and to claim they are is not only specious reasoning; it is lying. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. that's debatable, and I object to the accusation that I am a liar |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. I disagree. |
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Matsubara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
92. I have *NO* problem with labeling CDs with explicit lyrics and not selling them to kids. |
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Dukkha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
94. As a musician I see warning labels as free promotion |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
95. Good point. Tipper Gore is not one of us |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. We're only us |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
98. That entry needs some editing by someone who understands what censorship means |
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