*** Lurita Doan "This is Unfair" GSA Hearing *** Thread 4

[MiniMe]

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[ShortnFiery]

1. I just can't watch her! She cracks me up in all the wrong ways = irritating like

nails on chalkboard.

But what's up? :evilgrin:

[dogday]

2. Go Diane Watson

[MiniMe]

3. Diane Watson up

Saying she thought the hearing was about violation of Hatch Act. Go Diane

[MiniMe]

10. Watson: Did you violate the Hatch Act

Doan: No, and launches in a monologue

[Sydnie]

4. Appears Mica has become her personal council now!

Damn ... nothing like putting your game plan right in the record!

[AndyA]

5. Diane Watson commenting that race has been interjected into the conversation.

She finds that disturbing.

I like the way Watson questions people, she's very direct, and maintains her composure.

[displacedtexan]

6. Go, Mrs. Watson!

Watson asked if Doan thinks she's being unfairly treated because
she is either a woman or black.

Yes or no answer, please.

Watson is chewing up the crackers on the panel & spitting them out!

Yea!

[WinkyDink]

7. When Doan was arguing that "will not be promoted" might just be verb error, why didn't

a Dem ask her, "Why mention no promotions and no bonuses AT ALL? What does 'verb tense' or 'conjecture' have to do with the FACT that your initial response was to PUNISH?"

[AndyA]

8. Watson says as a woman African American, she resents race being brought

in to this. This is about Hatch Act violations, nothing else.

SMACK!

[dogday]

11. Liar Liar

Pants on fire....

[IChing]

9. Did you violate the Hatch Act? yes or no-Watson

No-the weasle says no

[ShortnFiery]

15. Watson is too cool!

:applause: She serves us proud. :patriot:

[ShortnFiery]

Watson is too cool!

:applause: She serves us proud. :patriot:

[ShortnFiery]

16. Watson is too cool!

:applause: She serves us proud. :patriot:

[tsuki]

12. The real Linda emerges. I Doan-no returns. nt

[dogday]

13. I don't buy the fact that you don't remember

and it is my assessment that you did Violate the Hatch Act....

[AndyA]

14. Doan doesn't recall.

Watson reclaims time, tells Doan she doesn't buy the statement that the Hatch Act wasn't violated, and believes that she did, in fact, violate it.

[MiniMe]

18. What a surprise.

:sarcasm:

[zanne]

17. This is such a joke.

All any Republican has to do is avoid answering questions directly and they get off scott-free. I can't watch this farce anymore.

[JTFrog]

19. Hey Tom...

in both your opening statements (hers too) it was brought up the fact that she was an African American female....

[blogslut]

20. Oh, Tom Davis

YOU brought race and sex into this hearing. What a sham

[demnan]

21. Why do I always want to take a bath

after I hear Davis speak?

[dogday]

22. I remember email I sent two years ago

I don't even have a great memory. But if someone reads off something I have written, I would be able to recognize it as my own email....

[displacedtexan]

24. Of course, you'd remember an email if you wrote it.

But then, you're not a lyin' repuke snake.

[mod mom]

23. 1st reference for her being a AfAm was done by Davis.

[tsuki]

25. Davis and the two year old email. The blesséd "I am not

responsible" Republicans, the party of everyone else's personal responsibility.

[MiniMe]

26. Bilbray is up. Time for a break

Probably another repuke speech.

[blogslut]

27. Christopher Shays is so nice

</snark>

[ShortnFiery]

36. His lull ... dull speech reminds me of "Shining - Happy - Beautiful - People" in charge ...

so why don't you leave this sweet lady alone to finish organizing The COLLECTIVE? :evilgrin:

[VP505]

Another pat

on the ass from Shays!

[sabra]

28. Shays: you are beautiful person

[dogday]

29. Christopher Shays is sharing the love with her...

Oh poor wittle girl....

[dogday]

35. Shays needs to take his Prozac

he is off his nut....

[LSK]

30. WTF, is Shays coaching her?

[JTFrog]

31. Mr. Shays

is in love too apparently. "You're a beautiful person". "You're a remarkable person".

[tsuki]

32. What about the employees? Doesn't anyone care about the

employees under her administration.

Shays needs glasses, beautiful?

[AndyA]

33. Shays...Doan is so wonderful, has been attacked, poor thing.

:puke:

What a bunch of bull. The Republicans are disgusting.

[mod mom]

34. Shays says Doan is a beautiful person who just wants to help. Doan has been attacked

& attacked.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

37. this is sucking the life blood out of me

snakes and thieves making a mockery of what should be a judicial hearing... these repukes make me physically ill

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

43. Same thing here. It is excrutiating having to listen to them. eom

[dogday]

38. I don't blame those who worked for Shays and don't

like him... Heck I don't like him just watching him now... Imagine working for that puke...

[AndyA]

39. Shays: "I reclaim my time, I reclaim my time" to Waxman.

Doan is so wonderful, never attacked anyone, treated everyone fairly, blah blah blah.

I've worked with people like Doan before. They are vicious, sneaky, conniving, and CANNOT BE TRUSTED. You can tell by her responses and body language.

[Canuckistanian]

40. Shays sounds like he's about to start blubbering

Or does he always talk that way?

[LSK]

41. everyones going to be investigating everybody

[tsuki]

42. "A meeting that shouldn't have happened" and she said "How

can we help our candidate?" That is a Hatch Violation.

[DemReadingDU]

44. Doan: I received the report at 2PM

She remembers the time, but other details she doesn't recall

[Greeby]

45. Is she going to ask the committee what the meaning of "is" is?

:eyes:

[Beelzebud]

46. Does she think she's at an English class taking a pop quiz?

[Norquist Nemesis]

52. LOL! Counsel flops a note to her from behind

:rofl:

[dogday]

47. 3 types of tense

past, present and future....

[IChing]

48. I think she is just too good of a weasel word user

Weasel words can be used to draw attention away from adverse evidence.
They are used intentionally to manipulate an audience by heightening audience expectations about the speaker's subject.
Claims about the truth of a subject at an earlier time when the truth could not have been ascertained because of a lack of hard facts, will become much harder to verify when weasel words have been used in the meantime. This may be seen when a politician, for example, later tries to alter the perception of an original speech.

A weasel phrase can be used to avoid criticism sounding negative, such as beginning an insult with the phrase, "With all due respect..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_words

[WinkyDink]

54. I think this post was a good example! ;)

[MiniMe]

56. I swear there is a class somewhere to coach people on that

[IChing]

77. She taught the class and wrote the book

she is masterful in her motor-mouth meanderings of saying nothing

[annabanana]

49. What is a hortetory subjuctive tense?. .WTF is she talking about?

[DemReadingDU]

51. If Daon can remember what that is,

She can remember if she violated the Hatch act!

[Norquist Nemesis]

57. Someone who's very carefully choosing her words and

desperately mis-using the English language

[Adsos Letter]

50. oh my "look how cute I can be"

[dogday]

53. Smackdown by Waxman

catch her in her lies....

[WinkyDink]

58. Details? I had to mute.

[dogday]

72. On one hand she said she had the power in the

future to deny bonuses to those employees and then she said she didn't know about a rule that allows her to award bonuses or not... Waxman is saying you said you could deny bonuses in the future but you did not know you had the power to award bonuses or not... He caught her in a lie...

[napi21]

92. Gonzo taught her that! Remember he said the Constitution didn't

grant habeous corpus, it just said you can't deny it.

[WinkyDink]

95. Thanks! Man, she is so typical.

[Adsos Letter]

55. I wish Waxman could do all the questioning...he cuts straight to the point

[nascar55]

63. Why

is paris in jail? why................why........why.......

[WinkyDink]

97. Jail is for people the MSM actually discusses. ;)

[dogday]

59. Here comes Davis trying to patch the wound

but it is too late, they caught her in a Lie....

[Norquist Nemesis]

Yep. Let's just all move on until we find something to investigate

Democrats endlessly.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

MAKE TOM STOP WTF!?

[spanone]

60. Davis thinks this is waste of time....then get the fuck out of there and let Waxman do his job.

[Beelzebud]

61. So Davis just want to save the world, and end this waste of time!

These Republicans are fucking stupid.

[mod mom]

74. Yes, to Davis oversight into violations of law to help elect Republicans IS a waste

of time.

[DemReadingDU]

62. Davis - PLEASE shut up

[zanne]

71. Is she under oath?

If not, there's no sense in all this.

[tblue37]

142. Lying to Congress during an ivestigation is a federal crime.

She doesn't need to be under oath for it to be a crime.

[VP505]

64. So she wants

everyone to believe that since she doesn't think she had the authority to retaliate that she couldn't or didn't? Fact is she was in charge of those who did have the authority and you can bet that she could and did pressure them to do the retaliating, its called CYA by having a subordinate do the dirty work.

[MiniMe]

65. Davis: This hearing is a waste of time

Then don't go so the dems can ask the real questions. As Boxer said, elections have consequences. Waxman sets the schedule, not you.

[MiniMe]

75. What does this have to do with the Hatch Act violation?

Souder is complaining because a local contractor didn't win a transportation contract?

[blogslut]

66. Tom Davis is just shameless

Now he's Paris Hilton.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

78. .

[NRaleighLiberal]

67. Wish I could watch Lurid Groan, but don't get CSpan 3...thanks for the commentary!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

70. Can you watch video on your computer? If you can, go to C-Span.org

and Click on C-Span3.

[Norquist Nemesis]

76. You can link through either the CSPAN website or the Committee site

Links are in thread 1 :)

[spanone]

68. I find it odd that no one feels an obligation to tell the truth anymore.

[Adsos Letter]

69. one of the things that really irritates me

about all this is that some of the Dems are so ineffective in their questioning...they aren't direct enough. Too much stumbling...Conyers, much as I like him, does the same thing too often. I wish they could develop their questions and have their best people ask them...

[VP505]

80. Lawyers,

they need training from lawyers to learn HOW to question them.

[Adsos Letter]

yes...too often their questioning sounds weak and gives the impression

that they really are groping around...

[dogday]

91. What are you watching?

I am seeing the Democrats coming down hard on this gal for the answers..

[Adsos Letter]

100. I think Clay threw me off...and I admit I came in when he started

[dogday]

84. You must of missed Waxman catching

her in her own lies.... A shame you didn't It was priceless....

[Adsos Letter]

90. I think Waxman is excellent...that is my point...I wish he did more of

the questioning. Or Welch.

[Beelzebud]

73. Poor Poor Souder. I'm just going to cry.

[dogday]

81. What in the world is he ranting about?

[displacedtexan]

86. He's complaining because Repukes never invested in public transit

and their constituents need it now.

Duh.

[blogslut]

82. Can he stall more?

Blah blah blah blah. Groan.

[aquart]

87. Excuse me? This IS a real issue.

He's taking the first opportunity to get this on the record. It's either malfeasance or pure incompetence.

Better than praising her to the skies.

[hang a left]

79. Screw this

Start a thread when something substantial happens. Like when they tell her they are sending a criminal referral to the DC USA.

[ShortnFiery]

85. Yes, the gratuitous republican ass grabbing is nauseating.

:puke: :P

[MiniMe]

83. What'sa matter Souder? Never heard of no-bid contracts before?

[tsuki]

88. Every time I see Issa, I despise him more. nt

[spanone]

89. When did breaking the law become a partisan issue?

[tsuki]

93. When Republicans break the law. nt

[dogday]

94. Welch is throwing down

Shut up and answer my questions....

[spanone]

96. Boy, I would come out of that seat and slap the shit out of this woman.

[Adsos Letter]

98. You would think BY NOW she would know

enough about the Hatch Act

[Beelzebud]

99. This woman is a master at obfuscation... It's maddening...

[Norquist Nemesis]

101. That and a fistful of $$$$ gets her at the head of the GSA! n/t

[Beelzebud]

102. Don't you love how the Republicans refer to the Democrats as "Interrogators"

Next they'll say they're torturing her.

[WinkyDink]

103. If you're not with us,....

[dogday]

104. Well they should know, they wrote the book on torture.....

[sabra]

105. by using "enhanced interrogation techniques"

[Norquist Nemesis]

110. And they don't know how to properly ask a question either

It's crap like this that really makes me hate them so profoundly. :grr:

[Norquist Nemesis]

106. Grrr! I am so SICK of these Cons!! Issa: "I'm going to ask the question

the way it should have been asked." :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Go smack the gavel on his head dammit!!!!

[WinkyDink]

107. Issa looks like a deranged Soupy Sales.

[dogday]

108. I like to call him Assa................

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

114. You're watching on tv? There seems to be a lag in what I'm watching online and your

commentary!

[WinkyDink]

115. I'm watching on the computer; C-span3 isn't on my TV. Maybe I type slowly.

[WinkyDink]

125. Sarbanes just finished a question. Am I contemporaneous?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

144. On the contrary! You were way ahead of me!!! nt

[sabra]

109. Waxman slaps Issa down!

[Adsos Letter]

111. ...Of course not..."not for a minute do I pretend"...no, no, of course not...

[Adsos Letter]

Go Sarbanes...smack down royal...

[blogslut]

112. Issa makes me ill

The white house used a govt agency to help get their republican candidates elected. Arrrggghhh!

[seemslikeadream]

113. links are bad

:hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1102575&mesg_id=1102575


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1102961&mesg_id=1102961


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1103236&mesg_id=1103236

[MiniMe]

116. Hmmmm, they work for me. Maybe because I created them

I'll repost when I get a chance.

[seemslikeadream]

134. Thread 3 works for me but not the others

:shrug:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

137. Self-delete! Wrong place! eom

[Norquist Nemesis]

117. THANK YOU DIANE WATSON!!!!

Give that woman a standing O!!!!

[dogday]

118. Sarbanes can question me anytime......

[Norquist Nemesis]

123. LOL! He can give me some English lessons too!!!

[blogslut]

119. Sarbanes!!!!!

lovelovelovelove

[Eurobabe]

129. drool alert!!!

[IChing]

120. Weasel woman -

Looking at Doan's background I would say she is not dumb at all.
During her testimony she is successful several times in running
out the time with wide eyed innocent long winded nonsense.

[Beelzebud]

121. LOL Sarbanes fighting fire with fire. :D

[Gregorian]

He slapped my knowledge of English right down the drain.

I just tuned in and it sounds like an english class.

[MiniMe]

122. Damn, Sarbanes just slapped her big time

[dogday]

124. Sarbanes smacking her down on her tenses

and her contrition....

[DemReadingDU]

126. Sarbanes gives example of Doan's hortetory subjuctive tense

How can we help our candidates!

[Eurobabe]

127. Sarbannes smacking her down re: her smart ass disrespect to the committee

Gosh, he is so good looking. :loveya:

(And I have a good looking hubby of my own, so for me to notice, that's something!! In fact he looks a bit like my guy)

[Norquist Nemesis]

130. His characterization of treating it as a sport is spot on!

[displacedtexan]

132. He really knows his "I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him" legal argumentation tactics!

Thank goodness!

[blogslut]

128. I found her tell

Lurita uses her jazz hands when she's lying. She makes al lot of illustrative hand motions when she is re-creating history, or lying.

[napi21]

136. Ya know, THIS AH Lurita is the kind of female boss that has given

ALL women in management a bad reputation! I've known and worked for AH's like her, and there's NO DOUBT in my mind she retaliated on any employees who disagreed with her!

[Norquist Nemesis]

141. Same here

She was out for revenge and probably did it all behind their backs.

[MiniMe]

131. Thread #5 up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1103970

[Adsos Letter]

133. well now...before she wasn't an "expert" on the Hatch Act

but she understands enough to know there are "degrees" of violation...

[Beelzebud]

135. Man she really is a sociopath... My god...

[KoKo]

139. Yep....she skillfully lies while appearing clueless...amazing performance!

[IChing]

143. That statement was pure conjecture and a past present perfect

statement, KoKo01

[Emit]

138. What was Sarbanes final comment?

What did he say that made Doan exlclaim, "That is a leap of logic!" I missed that.

[Norquist Nemesis]

140. Basically, she violated the Hatch Act and she KNOWS it

[Joe Chi Minh]

145. Her transparently specious metaphor of the paying spectator at

football matches was plain sad. They pay to watch displays of physical and mental strength and skills; she paid to financially support a political party in its quest for power. As it transpired, power exploited by her favoured politicians in a uniquely intensive partisan manner - and not without the help of partisan judicial officers.