Breaking on BBC & MSNBC-Beirut bombing

[malaise]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

[TwilightGardener]

1. How long will it be before the entire Middle East goes up in flames?

[H2O Man]

2. That is

the question.

[AngryAmish]

14. The entire middle east is in flames

As far as I can tell it has been in flames since the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

What does that entire region give the world? Oil.

Great scientific advances in the last century? Nope

Wonderful cultural achievements? Nope.

Do they manufacture products or feed billions through hard work? Nope.


So we buy the oil.

I am way past caring what they do.

We should go home and tell them: Sell us your oil if you want. If not, fine. Just don't expect us to keep cleaning up your messes. Be adults and stop blowing each other up. If you want to join the civilized world please do so. Until then the west is done with you.

[TwilightGardener]

17. I am nodding in agreement with you, unfortunately.

[malaise]

18. It sure is now n/t

[KurtNYC]

20. who drew the borders in the middle east?

who combined factions that hate each other into countries like Iraq (kurd/shiite/sunni) ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq#British_Mandate_of_Mesopotamia

[AngryAmish]

22. So what

They still have to grow up. They have soiled their own nest for too long. I am done with them.

[Selatius]

30. True, but some of the blood is on the West's hands as well.

Nobody is qualified to walk away from the Middle East as if they are the better person because no such person exists. If you walk away, you deserve to walk away without the satisfaction of knowing your side is better because it isn't: Not after what the US government has done in the region for decades.

[bdamomma]

34. these people have been fighting with each other for centuries, what

makes us think that "western" ideas will end it, we are just adding fuel to the fire so to speak.

[KurtNYC]

39. "these people" = all of humanity

virtually every word related to warfare is a French word: bayonet, grenade, interrogation, sabotage, invasion, occupation, artilary, etc. And many modern weapons had their start in Asia (gunpowder, missiles). Centuries of warfare are not limited to the Middle East.

the planet is much smaller than it used to be. we're all in this mess together.

[CGowen]

23. In what currency is it sold? n/t

[nonconformist]

26. Sadly, I'm beginning to feel the same way. nt

[northernsoul]

3. I hope this doesn't turn into a bad replay of last summer

In the meantime, for some grim humor let's see what's going on over at raptureready.com!

[madrchsod]

4. real soon

watched the reports last night and it does not look very good across the middle east and worse there is no one government that has the power to stop it. get ready for double digit inflation if the middle east collapses..

oh wait a minute--it`s the rapture! jesus is on the way!

[TwilightGardener]

6. Yay! Jesus! Wasn't expecting you so soon, though...could you come back in, like, 50 years?

[blondeatlast]

5. Very grim news. nt

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

7. Fucking Piece Of Shit Terrorists. My Heart Goes Out To The Victims And Their Families.

[WiseButAngrySara]

9. Just which "Fucking Piece Of Shit Terrorists" are you referring

to? Israel? The US? And which victims? The Palestinians? The Iraqis?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

10. Gee, I Dunno, The Fucking Piece Of Shit Terrorists That Just Used A Car Bomb To Kill Innocent People

maybe? :eyes:


What a seriously misguided reply that was.

[Tyler Durden]

11. I think we are all getting a little overwrought over ALL the death in the M.E.

The only think I can think of (after reading the story) is "Hmmm. 8 dead. Let's see...that's about 20% of yesterday's take of civilians in Iraq."

All a matter of perspective anymore.

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[MadAsHellNewYorker]

16. Wow, Israel or the US isn't even mentioned. They think it was from Syria

And it has nothing to do with Palestinians and Iraqis, it was attacks on Anti-Syrian Lebanese lawmakers. Maybe you should read the article next time?

[WiseButAngrySara]

31. I did read the article. And maybe you should consider why terrorism

exists now. And it has all to do with ISRAEL and the US. So go get madder than hell in New York, or move to Israel or Iraq.

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

33. cause Syria is just a puppet of Israel now, huh?

I don't get how a Syrian bomb is Israel's fault?

[WiseButAngrySara]

36. Why are you so MadAsHell, NewYorker? ....n/t

[Hippo_Tron]

38. So the US and Israel are responsible for the Syria/Lebanon conflict?

I don't see the connection there. Yes, the United States and Israel are partly responsible for the terrorist threats against them now. But there are internal conflicts in the Arab world as well. The Syria/Lebanon conflict is one example. Hamas and Fatah fighting in Gaza and the West Bank are another example. Israel and the United States can't be blamed for the rivalries between these factions.

[PCIntern]

19. Yeah the Israelis are well known for their use of car bombs...

:sarcasm:

[WiseButAngrySara]

32. What is the cause of the need for car bombs? 3-4 Million $ PER DAY

to poor little ISRAEL SINCE 1949.

No more pity from me. Enough is enough. Israel has become the slime that they tried to escape from.

[EFerrari]

8. Poor Beirut.

:(

[bdamomma]

35. yes, another beautiful oasis being gutted, my aunt used to live

out there many years ago, very metropolitan.

[Swede]

13. An anti-Syrian MP and his son die in the blast.

This is a fuse that has just been lit.

[mediawatch]

scary

isn't it

[mediawatch]

15. scary

isn't it

[karlrschneider]

21. Please tell me his name wasn't Ferdinand...

:eyes:

[glitch]

24. No kidding. :( nt

[HowHasItComeToThis]

25. REPUBLICANS AND MILITARISTS LOVE CHAOS

THEY CALL IT JOB SECURITY

[SpiralHawk]

27. "Good for republicon crony war profits" - Republicon Official Position

"Oh yeah, too bad about all the dead people and stuff
But then again, since most republicons are chickenhawks like Cheney, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Hannity -- none of our heroes will get a scratch -- smirk, smirk, smirk"

- OfficiAL REPUBLICON POSITION

[snappyturtle]

28. Perfect....imho.....yep, job security.

Welcome :hi:

[Selatius]

29. I smell a 2nd Lebanese Civil War on the horizon.

The winners here will be the arms manufacturers.

[bemildred]

37. Yep, so much for democracy and all that.

I can think of three general reasons for this:

1.) To threaten and/or remove an anti-Syrian politician because he was anti-Syrian.
2.) To implicate Syria, thus fending off negotiations or whatever.
3.) To create a distraction from the ongoing mess with Fatah al Islam etc.

Given the byzantine nature of Lebanese politics, it's hard to choose.