Expect a media onslaught at Michael Moore

[underpants]

Expect that to do nothing more than create more interest in his movie.

*sigh* so much for the Bono-esque middle of the road this-is-a-nonpartisan-issue tactic

Oh well keep saying it Michael. Let them know that we knew all along. "Predictable and predicted" as Sen. Webb said.



On "Good Morning America" today, Moore told ABC's Chris Cuomo that he was concerned that the health-care debate would go the way of the war debate, where he also thinks the media is to blame. He said that had journalists confronted the government about its decision to invade Iraq, they could have saved thousands of lives.

"My point is that had ABC News, NBC News, CBS News been more aggressive in confronting the government with what they were telling us back in 2003 about Iraq, you might have prevented this war. You, this network, the other networks," Moore said. "Those 3,500 soldiers that are dead today may not have had to die had our news media done its job. … My point is that the media didn't ask the questions."

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3273617&page=1

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. Why? So Far I've Heard Nothing But Positives About His Movie.

[bryant69]

2. I like Michael Moore, but he's obviously trying to provoke it

to a certain extent. And it does seem like it will be good for business and/or provoke more discussion on this issue.

Bryant
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[rurallib]

4. I hope he does provoke it

We need to get health care in the national discourse. Right up there with American Idol, Anna Nicole, Paris and all the other important issues.

[EFerrari]

8. Me, too. It would be nice to get to see a doctor at some point. n/t

[datasuspect]

6. provoke the truth?

truth needs some prodding.

but i agree with you marginally. i remember seeing the interview with charlton heston, and it kinda made me wince, because it seemed like michael moore was going out of his way to bait the senile old buffoon.

still, i applaud anyone who places the blame where it belongs and telling the MSM what shitstains they truly are.

[LSK]

3. I hope this one is bigger than F9/11

[datasuspect]

5. "michael moore plays the blame game"

i had to laugh at the title of the article.

responses to european socialized medicine:

"they tax you too much"

okay, here in the US they take at least 25 - 30% of any money i earn. how substantially different is that in the UK or other european countries? how much is the average person's tax liability in europe? 35 - 40%? (honestly, i have no idea). i'd pay more in taxes if i could get social services like healthcare, unemployment benefits, and a pension.

"you have to wait too long in line"

oh boo hoo!

i've waited 8-10 hours to get service at cook county hospital in chicago. and then there's the medical bills from being a "self-pay" at a regular hospital when i had a heart attack.

believe me, i'd rather wait in line and not pay 400 bucks for an aspirin.

[lostinacause]

7. The lines are a big deal. In certain areas of Canada the wait for a hip

replacement surgery is somewhere between one and two years. Time sensitive surgeries are usually fairly quick but things that can wait often end up taking a while to get done. This becomes a more serious issue for those who labour for a living and these types of injuries may prevent them from working for some time.

[datasuspect]

9. one or two years wait time

or not at all?

how much does that surgery cost without insurance?


i was classified a "county indigent" when i went to the non-poor people hospital in my town (they don't have a county hospital or charity hospital here).

went through a lengthy process with the county to fill out forms, waited in lines, and did all they required.

i STILL ended up with a large bill.


i know it might seem rough, but at least you still have the possibility of healthcare that won't bankrupt you. it sounds like you even have a job.

sometimes a glass can be half full.

[lostinacause]

13. As I responded in the post below I was just pointing out that long wait times are a serious issue

that would have to be addressed to make these policies feasible. For these types of surgeries people routinely go to America to get them done quicker. Some Canadians would rather pay the high prices then have the services provided in Canada for "free".

It should go without saying that I don't believe that the American system is perfect. In fact I would much rather have the system present in Canada.

[blondeatlast]

10. Since your profile is hidden, begging an indulgence--are you Canadian?

Or living there?

This US citizen has had some godawful waits for necessary surgery and I have EXCELLENT coverage.

I've laso had numerous denials that were eventually allowed.

[lostinacause]

12. Yes, I am a Canadian citizen. What I was saying is that the wait times are a legitimate

concern and if adopting a system that is more public orientated it is something that would have to be addressed.

I prefer the Canadian system to the American system but that is based primarily on my core values - everyone deserves health care.

[LSK]

11. as opposed to the US where the Insurance Company will try to deny it?

[lostinacause]

14. neither system is perfect