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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:42 PM
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Christian Newswire touting Fred Thompson. "If you support Giuliani, you don't support family values"
Edited on Wed Jun-13-07 01:45 PM by Bluebear
It's getting ugly over there in the "family values" party.


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Fred Thompson is Tied with Rudy Giuliani in Latest National Poll -- Here are Reasons Why

Rudy Giuliani is wrong for Republicans and America.

Contact: Bob Cielnicky, 714-964-1284; Ken Fisher 714-776-8855, Republicans Against Rudy Giuliani

IRVINE, Calif., June 13 /Christian Newswire/ -- Republicans upset with Rudy Giuliani's anti-family policies protested on Sunday, June 10th when the "Republican" presidential candidate appeared in Irvine. A "Rudy Giuliani in drag" was among dozens of sign-holding protestors outside the hotel.


Watch Rudy Giuliani in drag.

Giuliani in drag again.


"Imagine what heads of state would think of an American president known for dressing up as a woman," said Bob Cielnicky, a southern California pro-life leader. "What was Rudy Giuliani thinking when he did this publicly three times as mayor of New York? Obviously not the Presidency."

Propelled into national prominence by the 2001 World Trade Center attack, Giuliani is running as a "Republican." But many Republicans are discovering Giuliani's liberal views on foundational issues of abortion, homosexuality, judges, and gun control, and they don't like it. Giuliani is in conflict with the Republican Party platform and principles.



* As mayor, Giuliani was a steadfast abortion advocate who even supported partial-birth abortion. Records show Giuliani made six personal donations to Planned Parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider.

* Mayor Giuliani pushed for and signed a law that awarded pseudo-marriage rights to homosexual partners. Giuliani marched in several New York City Gay Pride parades, the last one three months before 9/11. After committing adultery and being evicted from the mayor's mansion by his wife, Giuliani moved in with a homosexual couple. He went on to marry his third wife and become her third husband.

* A Politico review of the 75 judges Mayor Giuliani appointed found that Democrats outnumbered Republicans by more than 8 to 1. Giuliani's judicial appointments included a lesbian activist and an abortion activist.

* As mayor, Giuliani aggressively went after two dozen major gun manufacturers and distributors with a lawsuit filed by New York City. That lawsuit prompted federal legislation to protect Second Amendment rights, however, the case is still open.

"It's appalling to see some Republicans abandoning their Republican Party core principles for Rudy Giuliani," said Ken Fisher, a conservative Republican activist in Orange County, California. "If you support Giuliani, you aren't supporting family values."


http://www.earnedmedia.org/lp0613.htm
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:46 PM
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1. They're right, and they're wrong
They're right that Rudy Giuliani has no family values.

They're wrong in their belief Fred Thompson is the right man for America.

EvilDUers, what do we have to do to make sure THE most whacked-out nutcase in America runs on the Republican ticket?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:35 PM
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21. Draft Santorum! -nt
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 04:08 PM
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28. Not wacky enough
Tom Tancredo's close, but he's still not loopy enough for me.

No, my friends, we need someone completely and utterly Bat Shit Crazy to stand for the Republican Party. Tom Coburn, come on down!

* Has called for the death penalty for doctors who provide abortions
* Has been accused of sterilizing a woman during a procedure to relieve an ectopic pregnancy (the correct medical term for the procedure to relieve an ectopic pregnancy is "an abortion")
* Mourns the banning of DDT
* Thinks silicone breast implants improve the health of their wearers
* Went after Newt Gingrich for being too liberal

THIS is who we gotta get as the Republican presidential candidate. The fucker only won his Senate seat by a nine-percent spread, and he represents the Totally Insane State of Oklahoma. They'll be calling the election for our candidate at noon.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 04:22 PM
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29. All right! Coburn/Keyes 2008! -nt
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:48 PM
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2. You mean "Fambly Values"
The folks who think that way are all pre-depression Granny Joads (my apologies to Steinbeck): "Vittory!!!"
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:48 PM
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3. Keep tearing the shit out of each other, GOPpers! That, inadvertently,
will in fact be the most "patriotic" thing any of you has ever done...
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:47 PM
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25. Really. I mean, I don't even see this level of infighting on the Dem side.
And we're usually the kings of the circular firing squad.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:50 PM
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4. 1. Does Fred have their version of family values? I heard he isn't
a church-goer, so if he has or had kids, did he raise them to go to church?

2. I don't think laziness is a family value, just a GOP value.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:51 PM
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5. Its true, Rudy is not a very good "family" candidate. Neither is Thompson, though, sadly for them
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:52 PM
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6. FUCK A BUNCH OF CHRISTIAN FAMILY VALUES
HATEFUL MOTHERFUCKING HYPOCRITE EVIL ASSHOLES WHO HATE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST AND WHO THINK THE CONSTITUTION IS THEIR OWN PERSONAL WEAPON TO USE AGAINST THOSE THEY HATE.

MY RIGHT FUCKING NUT HAS MORE VALUES THEN A BUNCH OF CHRISTIAN JERKOFFS.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:53 PM
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9. Don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel...
:rofl:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:52 PM
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7. I don't support "Family Values" or Giuliani.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:53 PM
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8. Oy vey
After committing adultery and being evicted from the mayor's mansion by his wife, Giuliani moved in with a homosexual couple. He went on to marry his third wife and become her third husband.


And how many republicans have been through multiple divorces and remarriages? How many have committed adultery? Since when has this been a problem for the RW?


As mayor, Giuliani aggressively went after two dozen major gun manufacturers and distributors with a lawsuit filed by New York City. That lawsuit prompted federal legislation to protect Second Amendment rights, however, the case is still open.


Um, :wtf: does this have to do with "family values".




Christian Newswire is whacko as usual. :crazy:


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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:57 PM
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11. Christians are hypocritical scum
BUT THEY ARE FORGIVEN. I guess its a good gig if ya want it.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:04 PM
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12. Christians in general are not hypocritical scum
The fundie christo-fascists are hypocritical scum. They cherry pick certain portions of the Bible to vigorously and wrathfully apply to other people's lives while conveniently ignoring the rest that would mess up their own lives. Sadly as they rant and rave so loudly and visibly their lunatic viewpoints are perceived to be the true face of Christianity when in fact they're a fringe minority.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:08 PM
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15. You may not believe this
but my broad brushed approach is designed to piss off "real" christians to correct the problem. But, as one might expect, I usually get my ass kicked for my perspective. I would appreciate anyone's efforts to make them more "fringer."
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:17 PM
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16. I'm not a Christian (though I used to be)
And even though many assume we atheists are religion haters I'll take people to task for broad brush statements, just as I'd hope others would do the same on my behalf.

And we do need some help from the mainstream Christians to make the lunatic fringe less powerful. They've been speaking up more lately, but there's still much to be done.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:23 PM
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17. I'm a Christian and I'm not offended, BOSSHOG.
I know who you meant. When most DU-ers go off on "Christians", I understand who they mean, so these threads don't bother me.

What bothers me is the scumbags who call themselves Christians, but don't even try to live according to the teachings of Christ. They're the ones who make real Christians look bad. Hatred is not a Christian value.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:28 PM
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18. I find the doings of those you refer to
as incredibly sad and destructive to our country. One's religion or sex life is irrelevant to me because we live in the land of the free, not the land of focus on the family. And their machinations are so orchestrated with the incessant blathering on about being "persecuted." james dobson has no concept of persecution. And his radio "news" is nothing but hiterlerian propaganda for his kind and against those he hates all in the guise of news.

I was an altar boy, contemplated the priesthood (a long time ago) but I quit going to church because I was tired of being told who to hate.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 01:57 PM
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10. Can one of those nutcases answer this for me?
Since when is divorcing your spouse and marrying a trophy bride a family value?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:05 PM
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13. Well, divorcing your wife of 25 years, then chasing skirts like a horny hound dog,
THEN marrying a girl who is younger than your daughter, a wife who looks like she's "worked the pole" in the past--what could they possibly find distasteful about that?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:06 PM
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14. I guess they value families by acquiring more and more of them? nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:29 PM
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19. Yep--"I love and value families so much, I want to personally try as many permutations
as possible!"
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:34 PM
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20. I think we have a winner
It makes sense.

How else are you going to really know what family values are?
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:42 PM
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22. sounds like his ex-wives and kids woul agree
are he and his son on speaking terms now?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:45 PM
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23. This is why Thompson won't win the nod
Because he DOESN'T appeal to the moderates, contrary to what the GOP might think. Thompson, along with Brownback, represents the loony wing that has hijacked the party, and as long as they continue to fight with people like Giuliani they will NEVER get the support they had in 2000 and 2004.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:50 PM
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26. I hope so. Though for someone entering the race so late and not having
participated in any debate, he sure moved up fast.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:45 PM
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24. Since when does "family values" = "anti abortion"?
Did I miss a meeting or something?

Oh and any of these fuckers who still supports the war has absolutely no right whatsoever to call themselves "pro life". Damn their logic!!!
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 02:54 PM
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27. Yeah family values means
dumping the old wife for upgrade trophy 2.0. Really don't see the difference in the two men on this issue. Neither apparently valued his family all that much.
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