Spooks Infilitrating UFO Community?

[Joanne98]

Spooks Infilitrating UFO Community?
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/06/toms_motivation.html

By Sharon Weinberger June 13, 2007 | 4:21:28 PMCategories: Bizarro
Why does a small, but devoted group, of intelligence officials continue to follow the UFO community long after the government disavowed any secret evidence of little green men? I have no idea, I just presumed they're looking for UFOs. But a few weeks ago, a writer named Gus Russo called me, telling me he was writing about this particular group of spooks.

I told him I don't do UFOs (no really, I don't), but suggested a few people who may know more. Anyhow, his final conclusion is that, in fact, these crafty guys are monitoring the UFO community in an attempt to keep tabs on foreign intelligence who may have already infiltrated this group:

Tom’s motivation, it now appears certain, can be summed up in two words: national security. In a recent interview, a senior intelligence official who is familiar with spooks in cyberspace explained, “Tom is interested in the subject because, one, he is concerned that DIA officers parading as CIA officers -- a felony -- are leaking classified material to the UFO groups. He also knows that in years past the KGB used parapsychology and paranormal groups to get to military people with classified information. He is concerned that any enemy group could easily use these forums to search out national security secrets.” Joel Brenner, the United States national counterintelligence chief recently said that the number of Russian agents operating in the country had reached “Cold War levels,” according to the Russian News & Information Agency.

Russo cites as further evidence: "In 2004 the CIA released under a FOIA request the Stargate Archive files, which reveal that the CIA was indeed concerned about monitoring UFO authors who might be privy to classified material."

So, if I get this right: these spooks don't really believe in UFOs, but they're worried that foreign intelligence agents have infiltrated UFO groups that have military members with classified info. And what sort of classified information do these supposed foreign intelligence types think they're gonna get from the UFO group (other than UFO information)?

Anyhow, too much to contemplate for one day, but an enjoyable read, if you can follow the cast of characters.
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/06/toms_motivation.html

[Redstone]

1. Well, okay, then. Spooks & Kooks. A match made in Heaven.

Redstone

[Joanne98]

7. Ooooh...Redstone,,, Good one!

[annabanana]

2. The only POSSIBLE response to this:

[Joanne98]

9. The men in black AND white? lol

[Morgana LaFey]

14. Against all odds, Men in Black I and II are two of my favorite

movies. I can't explain it. Not typically my "type," but I think I just like the pure silliness and then sappiness of the two movies. There are some truly funny lines, too.

[Kagemusha]

3. Speaking with more seriousness than this topic probably deserves...

I bet they keep a watch on planespotters in Europe too...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. I don't know.

Why does the Loch Ness Monster keep scaring away bigfoot every time I reach for my camera?

[L. Coyote]

5. They know the aliens have infiltrated the groups too?

OR, are they getting paid by the hour?

[Skip Intro]

11. Actually the aliens have infiltrated the government

[Ezlivin]

6. "[T]hese spooks don't really believe in UFOs..."

Sure they don't.

I just got through speaking with a woman who's father was an pilot-instructor for the C5A and who retired as a colonel. He saw a UFO and said that the military frowned on any reporting of such events/occurrences. He said that he believed in them, but to ever say so or even mention a sighting was to end your career. This same woman's husband is a retired pilot. He, too, saw UFO(s) and basically said the same thing regarding mentioning it to Continental.

There are many, many credible, upstanding people who have seen UFOs. Are they from space? Who knows. But one thing is for certain: Without a thorough investigation we'll never know what they are.

[Joanne98]

8. Hey! There are sooo many reports from pilots!

Too many to count.

[Octafish]

18. Thank you, Ezlivin. Many incredible reports from credible witnesses...

A friend of mine's dad was a big shot at Ford Motor Company. One day he was a passenger on the corporate jet with Henry Ford II. A shining oval-shaped object, about the same size as the jet, pulled up next to the aircraft. All passengers and aircrew saw it.

Ford asked the pilot if the thing was showing up on radar. Ground control said, "No." Ford then asked the pilot if he was going to report the event. The pilot said, "No. It will lead to a lot of hassle." Ford said, "I don't care. Report it."

My friend's dad was a straight-shooter kind of Republican guy. A veteran of World War II, he was no-nonsense regarding his work. No-nonsense in his life. He never mentioned to me any interest in, or knowledge of, UFOs. His son did only after learning about my interest in the subject.

For those who pooh-pooh the subject: Call me a conspiracy nut or a kook. I don't care which.



I like learning about that which most people have near-zero knowledge.

[IChing]

19. I knew the deputy director for the US Committee of Science and Technology

back in the mid 70's. Husband of my mother's good friend and
who treated me like his son at the time.

He said that we would soon have small anti-gravity devices
for moving furniture and appliances, he said he couldn't tell me
anymore about the technology which was classified. I thought it was a strange conversation
at the time and still believe that revealing that info told me a truckload
by what he didn't say.

[Octafish]

20. The change in the economy would blow certain folks' position in the food chain.

Fascinating story and info, IChing. I hope your friends and families have been safe these years. Perhaps we will see a dream of what could be realized.

Here's about the closest I came to UFO greatness:

A buddy of mine had a brother, whom I never met, who was an officer in the Air Force. The guy served during the 1960s and was assigned to something like Project BLUE BOOK as an investigator. My buddy related that his brother told him about a private pilot who experienced a Close Encounter III.

The private pilot had just been diagnosed with cancer. He was flying to escape thinking about his condition and just to enjoy the feeling of flight when he encountered something he'd never seen before. He said some object came up to his plane, bathing the interior of his plane with a blinding light.

The next thing the pilot said he experienced was waking up on the ground, sitting with his back against a tree. His plane was parked nearby.

When interviewed by the USAF fellah, my friend's brother who told me the story, the pilot didn't know how he got there. He remembered seeing a UFO. He didn't remember anything else. The oddest thing was that his cancer disappeared.

[Joanne98]

10. Even Wired.com is reporting UFO's. IT'S A TREND!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Are the spooks disguised as Elvis?

[gulfcoastliberal]

13. I love the knee jerk ridicule. No way could there be life more advanced than us!

After all, sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. So if our current level of scientific knowledge cannot explain it, it must be false. The thing is I know too many people, including veteran commercial pilots who've seen "flying saucers". Check out the reports from multiple police and individuals calling into 911 when a huge UFO flew around Illinois. http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1288.htm

Also the fact that the feds always deny and obfuscate reports doesn't help their credibility. Look how they lied about the O'Hare UFO; they said the control tower had no reports until a journalist filed an FOIA, all of a sudden they "found" the records of all the workers calling in to the tower reporting that a flying saucer was hovering over a gate. "Trust us, we're the government: UFOs don't exist (and Iraq has WMD, Iran is arming the Taliban, etc". I think people should be a little more open minded, check out how the French handle UFO reports: with respect and seriousness. They're the only country that has a paid scientist checking stuff out. People should read their reports. While I've not seen anything like a UFO, I don't buy into the ridicule theme that the CIA developed as a means of squelching people speaking up about their sightings.

[Matsubara]

15. There's a "UFO Community" ?

Who knew?

:shrug:

[Fox Mulder]

16. Interesting.

[DireStrike]

17. There's been an editorial mistake

There's a question mark after the piece's title, as if it were in question that spooks were and are infiltrating UFO groups and other such movements.